Have We Really Hit The Bottom Of The Real Estate Housing Market?

By Ilyce Glink | Oct 22, 2009 |

Everyone’s so anxious to call the “bottom” of the real estate housing crisis.

Why? There’s no accolade for being right. It’s not as if we’re going to see a 65 percent surge in housing prices over the next six months (and watch out for that kind of momentum in the stock market - it just feels wrong when the real unemployment rate is approaching 16 percent nationally).

All there is at the bottom of the real estate housing market is pain for millions of homeowners who have lost their homes to foreclosure, even as they’ve lost their jobs and whatever few thousand bucks they had left in their 401(k)s. And for those who are still in their homes, their net worth has fallen as their home prices have dropped 30 to 40 percent.

Things have been supposedly looking up since April, when Congress authorized an $8,000 first-time home buyer tax credit. I’ve covered the tax credit extensively in this blog, as well as Sen. Johnny Isakson’s (and friends’) push to extend it and expand it.

But the truth is that the U.S. housing market is still on life support - with the federal government supplying the Dopamine. Whether you’re looking at the $8,000 first-time home buyer tax credit, or the fact that the federal government is backing 85 percent (or more) of first mortgages through Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, FHA, VA, or USDA, or that Uncle Sam is spending more than a $1 trillion to buy U.S. housing-backed securities to keep mortgage rates artificially low, or that the number of low-down payment FHA loans going bad is surging.

Meanwhile, new data is emerging that suggests when the federal government ultimately weans the U.S. housing market off of life support, home prices will continue to decline.

Charles Hugh Smith reports that “Fiserv, a financial information and analysis firm, is forecasting that national median home prices will fall 11.3 percent by next summer.” The recent surge in home sales and new homes under construction have launched a new housing bubble (smaller in scope), as investors are tripping all over themselves to scoop up dozens of properties (each).

(Over the past few years, investors have accounted for about 40 percent of all home purchases. That is another pretty good indicator that the U.S. housing market is on life support. That number is unsustainable and historically has been about 6 to 8 percent.)

Smith points out, correctly, that the “foreclosure pipeline is bulging,” and there are untold numbers of foreclosed homes that the banks have taken back but have not yet released for sale. Once those foreclosures hit the market, prices will again drop.

Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody’s Economy.com agrees, telling CNN that more “price declines are coming because the foreclosure crisis isn’t over.”

If you’re going to be a real estate investor, it comes down to price and income. Can the income the property will generate support the price you’re going to pay? If not, how do you plan to keep from going broke?

We’re going to discuss this concept of income and profitability at my How To Profit From Foreclosures event this Saturday, in Atlanta. Perhaps some of those same investors who are scooping up properties as if they were Halloween candy will show up and tell us how they’re doing.

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    mlimberg

    10/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Have We Really Hit The Bottom Of The Real Estate Housing Market?

    No. The peak was in 2007. Many loans were ARM's. So far we have seen 3 year ARM's adjust. These loans were written in 2004, 2005 and 2006, peak years with respect to home prices.

    We still have 5 and 7 year ARM's to adjust. Unemployment is causing 15 and 30 conventional laons to default too. If you must move for family or employment, your house is likely underwater. Sell your house and lose thousands.

    So many people are under water with their home value to loan amount that walking away is a smart thing to do. Most likely your credit is screwed anyway, why not walk away and move in with family. It's much better to eat then make payments to banks that over pay their top employees anyway. No one is looking out for you, so why give a crap about them and their money? And not that the dollar is worth much these days anyway.

    Cut your expenses and start putting cash in your mattress. Cash is always King, and nver more so then these days. Take care of your family first.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Have We Really Hit The Bottom Of The Real Estate Housing Market?

    @mlimberg:

    Interesting. Your post takes a very dim view of where we are as well - at least on Main Street, where I live. I've been polling the folks who live on main street and overwhelmingly, they're feeling nervous about their jobs, or wondering where their next job is coming from, rapidly using up their cash, and are liquidating (or already have liquidated) retirement funds.

    It's much worse than Wall Street would have you believe. It will take quite awhile to start to feel good again, I think. Again, at least for Main Street.

    Thanks for taking the time to comment.

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    mlimberg

    10/23/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Have We Really Hit The Bottom Of The Real Estate Housing Market?

    Ilyce,

    Thanks for the reply. Seems we are on the same page, only I use a bit more blunt language....

    I'm a lucky American. I was transfered to a foreign country in 1998. I have not owned a house since then. I returned to the USA in 2001, looked at houses and concluded America looks just like the Midwest Farming Community did in 1977. Farmers over extended themselves in the 70's and 80's. They mortgaged their free and clear land and bought what they could, in any manner they could, and drove the price from $150 - $300 per acre to close to $4000 per acre. It was a bubble that did not end well. It took 20 years to recover.

    I saw the same thing with home values. Farmers said "they don't make anymore land" and home buyers had a similar mindset. Having lived through the "Farm Crisis" 30 years ago, the housing market looked very similar. Group think set in... people lost their ability to add and subtract and read. I don't think people believed the contracts they signed, they just knew the "Value" of thier homes would go up.

    We know now how that ended....

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    tonycartman

    10/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Have We Really Hit The Bottom Of The Real Estate Housing Market?

    What about the predictions of a second wave of foreclosure? And the predictions of the bad moment going over 2010? The bank owned homes are even more on sale

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    DesireeP

    10/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Have We Really Hit The Bottom Of The Real Estate Housing Market?

    Have we really hit the bottom of the real estate housing market? It sounds like the answer is yes. Although, how many levels of rock bottom are there? It sounds like as 2010 will continue to see foreclosures, investors will continue to sweep in, buy the homes and get richer.

    Wish I could have been at the Atlanta event to learn how to do it!

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Have We Really Hit The Bottom Of The Real Estate Housing Market?

    @tonycartman:

    I think the predictions of a second (really, it's a third wave) of foreclosures are right on the money. I am hearing about a possible 7 million foreclosures coming on the market between now and 2011.

    Thanks for your comment.

    Ilyce

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Have We Really Hit The Bottom Of The Real Estate Housing Market?

    @mlimberg:

    The Farm Crisis is a great example - and one that's not often talked about. Thanks for bringing it up - and for contributing to the blog.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Have We Really Hit The Bottom Of The Real Estate Housing Market?

    @desireeP

    If I had to guess, I'd say there's only a 50 percent chance we're at the bottom of the housing crash. I think we could see prices go lower next year and in 2011 as all of these foreclosures come on the market.

    Hope I'm wrong .....

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