$8,000/$6,500 Tax Credits Are A Done Deal. What’s Next?

By Ilyce Glink | Nov 3, 2009 |

With the Thanksgiving Recess just three weeks away, Senators burned the midnight oil last night to clear the way for the $8,000/$6,500 tax credit extension and expansion. Voting 85 to 2, the Senate cut off debate on a package of amendments and legislation. President Obama is expected to sign the tax credits into law later this week.

The $8,000 first-time home buyer tax credit has certainly done the job, boosting home sales by 9.4 percent to an annualized 5.57 million home sales pace, according to the National Association of Realtors.

But those numbers are a bit misleading.

Sales are about where they were in 1995. Just as the Great Recession has more than wiped out all jobs created since the turn of the century, the housing crisis has brought the U.S. housing market to a place it hasn’t seen since in a long time.

Senator Kit Bond (R-Mo.) voted against the extension and expansion of the $8,000 tax credit, saying “We’re kidding ourselves if we can prevent more fraud, more taxpayer losses.” The measure, as agreed to by Senate negotiators earlier, gives the IRS more power to catch tax credit fraud.

Some balked at the nearly $17 billion price tag. But what’s another $17 billion between taxpayers, right?

Seriously, one tax credit can easily lead to another stimulus, and the talk seems to be about what we do next to get the economy moving again.

President Obama is asking for creative ideas on how to create jobs, which readers of this blog know I think is a top priority for fixing what’s wrong. There are whispers of another stimulus package being needed, as if the $780 billion plus trillions more already spent were just a “first phase.”

As I sit in Hartsfield Airport this morning, watching our troops be saluted as they march toward their planes, I find myself thinking about the trillions we’ve spent fighting wars we can’t win, and how I wish the “Deciders” in Washington would spend the same kind of money nation-building within our own borders, as Thomas Friedman likes to say.

If you want to end the recession, spend a few trillion on creating new industries, retraining workers, and rebuilding our crumbling schools. Once people have jobs, the housing market will take care of itself and foreclosures will evaporate.

The tax credit is going to feel great. But a band-aid isn’t a substitute for major surgery.

 
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    DesireeP

    11/03/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000/$6,500 Tax Credits Are A Done Deal. What's Next?

    Thanks for the great information Ilyce!

    I love Thomas Friedman and agree our country needs to spend money within its own borders. Perhaps if we brainstormed on developing new industries for ourselves rather than brainstormed on a war we'd be more successful in the long run and could forget about stimulus packages all together.

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    Ilyce Glink

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    RE: $8,000/$6,500 Tax Credits Are A Done Deal. What's Next?

    @DesireeP

    Thanks for your comment. We'll always need to defend our borders, develop new weapons systems, and figure out a way to out-smart our enemies. But wouldn't it be nice if we could do that and figure out a way to put America back to work?

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    www.NMHomesOnline.com

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    RE: $8,000/$6,500 Tax Credits Are A Done Deal. What's Next?

    I am all for this extension. The housing market needs a bit more incubation time from the tax credit - and the $6,500, well, it's about time we reward homeowners if they can contribute to stimulating the economy.

    While I like the concept and am for it, I am curious: Will this make number of listings rise hurting the housing market as existing homeowners attempt to move? This may just be a wait and see in order to answer.

    So the news should be official by the end of this week...?

    Sean Remington
    www.SeanRemington.com

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    dpnstl

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000/$6,500 Tax Credits Are A Done Deal. What's Next?

    Tax Credit Update - Senate voted 9701 today shortly after noon to end debate on H.R. 3548 (The Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2009) which contains the amendment extending and expanding the tax credit....Next step is for the Senate to vote on passage of the bill with the amendment...this may happen tomorrow night or Friday...I have complete info in a post at

    http://www.realestateindustrynews.com/real-estate-market/home-buyer-tax-credit-extension-update/

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    Ilyce Glink

    11/05/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000/$6,500 Tax Credits Are A Done Deal. What's Next?

    The news is official. The Senate voted 98 to 0 to pass the amendment. I'll be doing a full story and post on it later this morning.

    Let the official countdown begin: 5 months, 25 days until the tax credit expires.

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    dpnstl

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    RE: $8,000/$6,500 Tax Credits Are A Done Deal. What's Next?

    Homebuyer Tax Credit Update: The House of Representatives just passed the bill by a vote of 403 to 12. It is now headed to the President for his signature..he is expected to sign today or tomorrow which then puts the extension and expansion of the tax credit into law. I have complete details as well as links to the bill in a post at:

    http://www.realestateindustrynews.com/real-estate-market/home-buyer-tax-credit-extension-update/

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    scooter6

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    RE: $8,000/$6,500 Tax Credits Are A Done Deal. What's Next?

    And so I ask, did Congress want to punish those that actually lost their jobs and homes due to the recession? That is exactly what is happening. The ones hurt most by the recession (those that lost their homes) are not allowed to take advantage of the credit, as it is only allowed for those that have owned for at least five years, or not at all for the last three years. What about those that had to short sell because their home devalued or got foreclosed on because they lost their job in the last couple of years? If it sounds like sour grapes, it is, because I am one of those people along with many others. I would hope that our representatives would want to help those of us that were hurt the most during this recession, but that is not the case.

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    Ilyce Glink

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    RE: $8,000/$6,500 Tax Credits Are A Done Deal. What's Next?

    @Dpnstl:

    Thanks for the update. The President signed the bill this afternoon (Friday, November 6, 2009), so it is officially law.

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    Ilyce Glink

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    RE: $8,000/$6,500 Tax Credits Are A Done Deal. What's Next?

    @scooter6

    I don't think Congress is trying to punish anyone. I think that they realized that everything they have done so far isn't working out exactly as hoped.

    The real estate market seems to have turned a corner precisely because the $8,000 first time home buyer tax credit worked - it got people over the hump of indecision and led them to buy.

    The real problem as I see it is that we're borrowing from future sales. We're just pushing them up into now, which means fewer people will buy next year.

    What Congress and the President are banking on is that the economy will have recovered by next June and even if sales are off a bit, we'll have had this push that will have carried us over the hump.

    I have to say, there are a lot of other forces holding back the real estate industry. We'll have to see if it works.

    For those people who went into foreclosure or had short sales, you'll be excluded from buying a home for the next 2 to 5 years, depending on the circumstances.

    My heart goes out to you as you try to rebuild your financial life.

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