$8,000 Tax Credit Watered Down Again?

By Ilyce Glink | Oct 27, 2009 |

A war is being waged over the $8,000 first time home buyer tax credit, and it doesn’t look good at the moment for a tax credit extension or expansion - although no one has given up the fight.

In Sen. Johnny Isakson’s (R-Ga.) camp, you have those who not only want to extend the $8,000 tax credit through June 2010, but expand it to include all home buyers who earn less than $150,000 if single, and less than $300,000 if married, filing jointly.

But many other Congressional leaders don’t think there should be any expansion of the tax credit. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.)  proposed a plan that would extend the current $8,000 first time tax credit through April 2010. The tax credit would diminish by $2,000 per quarter until it disappears entirely at the end of 2010.

Currently about 1.5 million Americans have filed for the $8,000 first time home buyer tax credit. The IRS says a significant portion may be fraud. The tax credit is estimated to have cost the U.S. government approximately $10 billion so far. The White House has made it clear that while it might support extending the deadline for the $8,000 tax credit, it wants it to stay focused on first time buyers.

While Realtors, mortgage lenders and home builders are hot to see the credit extended and expanded, it seems that Congress just doesn’t have the stomach to add another $17 billion to the trillions the government has spent on fixing the economy.

From my point of view, it’s a no-win situation. If the tax credit is extended, it sends a signal that the housing market is in such poor shape that it can’t manage without another lifeline being extended. If you allow the tax credit to expire on schedule, you run the risk that the housing market will crater as the car market did after Cash for Clunkers expired.

The current plan, according to various news reports, is to push the Unemployment Compensation Extension Act (S.1699) through the Senate, with Senators voting on whether to add an $8,000 tax credit amendment to the bill perhaps as early as this afternoon.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/27/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Watered Down Again?

    From Dick, on FaceBook:

    Much like cash-for-clunkers, this program does not really create new sales but only moves them in time. Every person who did a First Time Homebuyer this year is one fewer person who will buy their first house in the near future.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/27/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Watered Down Again?

    @Dick:

    Exactly. We have to wean the housing market off the government dole, I'm afraid. And, it won't be pretty for awhile, but it will be real. Thanks for your comment.

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    bbeautybar

    10/27/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Watered Down Again?

    Thank you for keeping us updated of the status on the tax
    credit. I can understand why this will be a tough fight in
    Congress. Perception is everything and if it seems like the
    housing market is in bad shape people may be apprehensive
    to buy. On the other hand, the economy is really hurting and
    families could use this tax credit. I have been biting my
    fingernails just thinking about it all day.

    Letitia
    New Orleans REALTORS Association

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    Jay Thompson

    10/27/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Watered Down Again?

    Not all Realtors are hot to see the tax credit extended or expanded. This Realtor would be happy to see the government step out of the way of a free market economy. The market WILL adjust. Maybe not as fast as some would like, but it will.

    And letting natural market dynamics play out will make for a much more stable market in the long run.

    Everything I've read today (except this article) points to some sort of extension getting past at least the Senate this week. At this point it's probably political suicide not to extend the credit because "popular opinion" says it's the right thing to do.

    Popular opinion isn't always the BEST thing to do though.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/28/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Watered Down Again?

    @Letitia:

    I agree - this is a nail-biter. And, I have really mixed feelings about it. I think pushing it through sends a message that we're not ready for Prime Time - and we're not.

    Geez, just take a look at the new home sale numbers out this morning. Down again! To an annualized sales number of 402,000! That's really something. (It might be a little stronger in your neck of the woods, but check out what's going on - or not going on in places like the Southwest and Atlanta, where so many builders have gone out of business in the last few years.)

    I'll try to post more about this later today. Watch the blog for news!

    And, I'll keep posting what I am seeing and hearing from Congressional offices.

    Thanks for your comment.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/28/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Watered Down Again?

    @JayThompson:

    I also agree with you - at some point, we're going to have to cut everyone off and everyone will have to adjust. But, do we have to do it now, when the true unemployment numbers are so drastically high?

    (See today's post: Is The Recession Over? Not With 21 Percent Unemployment.)

    I feel for the person who has to make this decision (probably HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan in conjunction with Congressional leaders) because there is no easy fix, no easy decision.

    Extending the current $8,000 tax credit to April, so we limp along through the winter, and limiting it to first-time buyers doesn't solve the "trade up" problem. But expanding the tax credit means we could have a truly awful 2011, as all of these sales get pushed forward.

    So you're right - you can take your lumps now or take them later, but eventually, we're going to have to take the housing market off life support and let the dust settle where it will.

    Look for a post (hopefully later today - so much to write about today, folks) that takes a deeper look at what's the true level of government support is for the housing market. I think you'll be shocked.

    I know I was.

    Thanks for your comment.

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    c leonard

    10/28/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Watered Down Again?

    I am a first time home buyer and I will make 16K in repairs On my new home. That means that I will put three or four men to work in my town.I will be buying all the paint,carpet and what ever I need from my local stores. This will help get the economy going, we need to keep the tax credit going.
    PS. the house is a forcloser.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Watered Down Again?

    @CLeonard:

    Thanks for sharing. You'll probably get your wish. Check out my new post: $8,000 Tax Credit: New Deal?.

    Thanks for your comment.

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