$8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

By Ilyce Glink | Oct 20, 2009 |

White House officials said today that they aren’t totally sold on the proposals floating about to extend and expand the current $8,000 first-time home buyer tax credit.

Shaun Donovan, Secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), told the Senate Banking Committee this morning that while extending the $8,000 tax credit is popular with lawmakers, Realtors, Home Builders, Mortgage Bankers, and the public, the White House recognizes that the cost is significant.

“I am mindful that these proposals can be very expensive, especially at a time of significant budget deficits,” Donovan said.

The Administration announced this morning that President Obama was going to turn his attention to the enormous budget deficits and attempt to figure out how to get them paid down. Spending nearly $17 billion on an extension and expansion of the $8,000 tax credit wouldn’t help.

Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-GA), who has single-handedly pushed for an extension and expansion of the $8,000 first-time home buyer tax credit since June, can’t be happy about this latest development. Yesterday, he spoke to his colleagues, telling them:

“The current home buyer tax credit is set to expire on November 30, and we are approaching the worst three months of the year for the housing market. It is imperative that we retain the momentum we have gained as a result of the current credit [crisis] and go into the spring market with the increased consumer confidence necessary for establishing a viable market.

The only real estate agent in the Senate, Sen. Isakson said “During my 33-year career in real estate, I experienced many challenges and difficult markets, but never anything like the current housing market in America. America’s families have lost trillions of dollars in home equity as home values have fallen, and in some markets, continue to fall today.”

He also said that failure to extend the popular tax credit would lead to “a dramatic and awful situation in the United States of America.”

Today, Donovan disagreed. “I do not believe that a catastrophic decline would be the result of the end of the credit,” Donovan said. In response to questions, he said that the administration would make a decision in the next few weeks after figuring out exactly how much the tax credit would cost.

(And more bad news for Sen. Isakson: The IRS announced that a significant portion of the 1 million home buyers who have filed for the tax credit may have done so fraudulently. They’re looking at more than 100,000 cases of taxpayers who have misused the tax credit. I’ll follow up on this in a separate post.)

Are we really talking about fewer homes being sold? I think fewer homes will be sold anyway next year, particularly if Treasury cuts back on buying housing-backed securities and interest rates rise.

The real question is when will the U.S. housing market try to stand on its own? If Congress passes an extension and expansion of the tax credit, the answer will be clear: Not yet.

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    DBQRobCook

    10/21/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    I'm a real estate agent AND firmly against extending the tax credit. While I personally may have been involved in a sale or two in which the buyer intends to utilize that tax credit, I don't think this scheme to rig the market really brought quite so many buyers back into the market who wouldn't have already been there in the first place. Bad economy or not, people's life situations change (marriage, kids, death, divorce, etc.) every day.

    To have Joe Taxpayer fork over up to $8,000 as a handout isn't right, and only serves to distort the market and the true value of the homes churning through the system.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    @DBQRobCook:

    I'm just writing in today's blog post that the U.S. government has been keeping the U.S. Housing Market on life support. The $8,000 tax credit is a big part of what's going on - but it's not the only thing. Check out Is The U.S. Housing Market Ready To Stand On Its Own?.

    Thanks for your comment and watch out for today's post.

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    WorknHard

    10/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    It's so great that we, the tax payers, spent so much money bailing out the banks and car industries, paying for thier vacations and bonus's but when it comes to trying to help the middle class people, you can hardly find anyone for it. We can get a little of that money back in the for of help with buying our first home to raise a family in??????

    In regards to the fraud involved in the $8000 tax credit, I'm sure thier has to be someone smart enough in congress to come up with something to avoid people being able to commit fraud so frequiently. However asking congress to think may be asking to much.

    My husband and I work our butts off, we make ok money but "ok" is just enough to not be low income and not enough to be able to afford things. We have no kid and recently finished paying off our debt. So because of us making a mature desicion (one which many dont make now days) to WORK 40 a week and a desicion that we are not yet ready for children at the age of 26 and 27 we are punished with no assistance in purchacing a home. With this $8000 tax credit we saw a light that was not only garenteed for low income or for people who choose to not work, have 5 kids and live off of what we make at work. We saw something that could finally help us.

    So because we were not ready to jump into a house in the short time frame provided we may have lost our opportunity to buy a home and get a little savings to put in the bank. It would be great to have $8000 in savings incase something does happen so we wouldnt have to Forclose on our home.

    But pardon me for exspecting the "little people" to get any real help from the government. The Government is allowed to go into debt and forget about it for years, if I do this I could loose everything I have, hmmmmm.... I wonder what the Governments credit score is? Good thing they dont need help buying homes.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    @worknhard:

    I agree - it would be great if the government set aside more help for those of us who live on MAIN STREET not on WALL STREET.

    I don't know if those in the know in the government even realize how angry everyone is on all sides (left, right, independents, green, etc.).

    Last night, I sat in for Herman Cain on WSB radio. We talked about how the Pay Czar is going to cut the pay of the top 25 best-paid people at the companies that took the most in TARP. The government says this is the only way to protect the government's (i.e. taxpayers') investments.

    It would be so much nicer if they then took the savings and figured out how to get more Americans employed.

    Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.

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    MyMortgage

    10/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    I am a mortgage broker. I am against extending the $8,000 tax credit although I know most of my peers are for it. First off, while the extension may help some, already we have seen how costly it has been, and the costs to extend it is too excessive. Furthermore, the fact that it is only singled out for First Time Home Buyers and not everyone else gives special preference to one group over others. In some ways, it's like bailing out Wall Street, and not other every other struggling companies under the sun.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    @mymortgage

    The question is, would you want an $8,000 tax credit for everyone? That's what Sen. Isakson is proposing - but watch for the cost to really skyrocket. $17 billion isn't a small amount of money, which is why this legislation hasn't already passed.

    It's really hard to make the case that we need to continue the government life support of the real estate industry. That, in my mind, is exactly what we'd be doing if the $8,000 tax credit is expanded and extended.

    Think about the car industry. Where are the jobs and long-term benefits coming from Cash for Clunkers?

    Thanks for your comment.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    For more of my thoughts on the government life support issue, see my post Have We Really Hit The Bottom of The Housing Market?

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    lmarie.cole

    10/25/09 | Report as spam

    New Home Buyer

    I agree with the extension of the tax credit. My husband and I just graduated from College and are starting brand new careers. We are in the process of looking for a new home and will not buy next year unless the tax credit is extended. With our college loans in repayment status and the fact that we just moved to Texas to get away from the economic crash in Detroit...it would be nice to finally catch a break. It's sad that others have lied to get this credit and have ruined it for honest people like us who are really trying to get through the tough times. I've done my part for this economy by working hard, paying my bills on time, and not asking for any bail outs. Our parents, who worked in the auto industry for several years, have lost their jobs and cannot offer us the help we need as a young couple trying to make a future for ourselves.

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    Grizpin

    10/26/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    I am a divorced man who lives with 1 child and pays support for 3 others. I make ok money but since I'm on a single income I have a second job as a reservist in the military. With good credit and two jobs I am still not able to buy a home without putting my month to month budget in jeapordy. The tax credit was my opportunity to start looking at real estate since the money would be very helpful getting me settled into a new home. Unfortunately I started a bit late in my search and I am now just about out of time. I hope the credit is extended to give me a little more time otherwise it may be another 5 to 10 years before I can consider a new home.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/26/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    @lmarie.cole

    Thanks for sharing your story. I think it's fantastic that you and your husband and starting new careers and are thinking about buying a home. While getting up to $8,000 would be handy, is this the only way you can afford to buy?

    So many people who are starting out have a mount of college debt to pay off, car loans, and credit card debt. While $8,000 would certainly help, you should make sure you can truly afford everything on your plate before taking on another huge cost.

    I have some suggestions about how to budget and plan for the purchase of a house in my book 100 Questions Every First-Time Home Buyer Should Ask, 3rd Ed. that you might find useful.

    Thanks for your comment.

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    Ilyce Glink

    10/26/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    @grizpin:

    You also have a lot on your plate financially. Have you thought through the expense of owning and maintaining a home? I'm not trying to discourage you, but I'm worried about you getting in over your head.

    Homeownership is a wonderful thing. And, there are huge numbers of foreclosures that are driving down prices in some areas. If you live in Arizona, Georgia, Las Vegas, Florida, California, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan or some of the other states where the numbers of foreclosures are huge, you may find that as the next huge wave of foreclosures comes through, prices will drop even further and you'll be able to buy a home - even if the $8,000 tax credit isn't extended or expanded.

    I hope it works out. Thanks for sharing your story.

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    aeak

    10/31/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    I am single mother working on a doctorate degree. I was
    hoping to close before the November 30th deadline but
    unfortunately that is unlikely to occur. Has the government
    considered extending the deadline for individuals who have a
    contract on a house by November 30th? There are many
    programs that people can take advantage of, that may off-set
    the cost of getting into a home--as consumers research is key!

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    Ilyce Glink

    11/01/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    @aeak:

    I think the whole program is going to be extended AND expanded. November 30, 2009 won't be the sunset date.

    There are some programs that offer extra benefits on the state and local levels. You do need to search for them. Search "down payments" and the city/state where you live to get started.

    Thanks for your comment. Hope you can close soon.

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    acn71

    11/01/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    I am a single woman looking to purchase a home, but I do not qualify as a first time home buyer - I owned a home just over 2 years ago. I was excited to hear that the tax credit might be extended and expanded to include anyone puchasing a primary residence, but now it looks like it will only be expanded to include people who sell their exisiting home to purchase a different home. How does that help anyone? So, once again, as a responsible, hard-working single woman, I get stuck paying more taxes to help pay for yet another tax that excludes me.

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    Ilyce Glink

    11/02/09 | Report as spam

    RE: $8,000 Tax Credit Extension? White House Says Maybe.

    @ACN71:

    I don't think that's right. I think it's for those who have owned a home that they lived in for 5 of the past 8 years. But stay tuned. I'll investigate and let you know in an update later today.

    Thanks for the comment.

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