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Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

Brad Klontz knows all about the dumb things that smart people do with their money: He’s a smart guy (with a doctorate in psychology) who lost half of his assets in the technology stock bubble.

A financial psychologist, Klontz says that when it comes to money smarts, size matters: The logical part of your brain is so much smaller than the emotional side that it’s like “a circus performer riding an elephant.” To make smart decisions about your finances, you need the logical side to dominate. But once you get tweaked by greed or fear, that elephantine emotional brain is likely to run amok.

That’s why otherwise intelligent people chase get-rich fantasies. Or cling to stocks that are long past their expiration dates. Or find other ways to let fear and superstition keep them from smarter financial moves. Here are nine of these common, emotionally driven money mistakes — plus some tricks from experts for getting that elephant in line.

1. Falling in Love ... With Your Investments

It can be great to fall in love with a person, but stocks can get you into deep trouble. Newport Beach, Calif., financial planner Laura Tarbox says she sees this all the time: Some clients keep concentrated stock holdings because they inherited them and “Mom just loved IBM,” or because they work for the company and feel that selling would be disloyal.

Then there’s the couple who came to her asking for help investing $12 million. “That sounded really great until we found out that this couple used to have more than $1 billion,” Tarbox says. “All their money had been invested in a company that the husband helped launch — and he couldn’t convince himself to diversify when he walked away.”

Sorry, but that relationship just won’t work, says Tarbox. No one should have more than 10 percent of his or her wealth locked in one stock. Just ask the former employees of Enron, who lost both their jobs and their retirement savings when the company filed for bankruptcy 10 years ago.

2. Chasing a Fantasy

You’ve read it 100 times: “Past performance is not an indication of future returns.” But no one appears to believe it. Purveyors of investment data can trot out tons of statistics showing that when a mutual fund or asset class (such as gold, emerging markets stocks, or junk bonds) gets singled out for great quarterly or annual returns, investors start to pour money into that investment like it was going out of style.

And, of course, it is. One extensive study that looked at 19 years of market data found that investors consistently poured money into “hot” investments just as they were about to turn cold. That left the average investor with returns that fell way below the market as a whole and didn’t even keep up with inflation. (For more on this, see our recent story “The Biggest Mistake Investors Make.”)

Klontz admits that this is why he lost his shirt in technology stocks. It’s a natural inclination to “run with the herd,” he says with a shrug. Maybe so, but if you don’t want to get trampled, you have to devise an investment strategy that suits your goals and then stick to it, even as your neighbor gets (temporarily) rich on the investment du jour.

3. Equating “On Sale” With “Good Deal”

Consider two television sets: Both are $500, but one is marked down from $800. Which one do you buy? If you’re being reasonable, you buy the one that got the better rating in Consumer Reports. But most people buy the one that’s on sale, says Matt Wallaert, a consultant for LendingTree, which owns the money management Web site Thrive. In fact, even people who would never have spent $500 on a television often will when it’s discounted — simply because it’s so cheap!

In reality, $500 is $500. If you wouldn’t normally spend that much on a television (or any product, for that matter), you shouldn’t do it now. We’ve been fooled by “anchoring”: the illogical, but nearly inescapable, tendency to base our estimates of value on the nearest number we see, rather than an independent assessment. Just because the tag has $800 crossed out and replaced by $500, that doesn’t mean $800 was a meaningful price. Indeed, an MIT experiment revealed that students who wrote down the last two digits of their Social Security numbers based their estimates of a wine bottle’s worth on those two random numbers. The higher their numbers, the more the students were willing to bid for the wine.

Before you pull out your checkbook to splurge at a sale, evaluate whether the product, be it a television or a bread machine, is worth that price in enjoyment. Consider how often you’ll use it, for instance, and whether you can get something of similar quality for less.

4. Retaliatory Spending

You don’t need it. You don’t want it. But, dang it, no one is going to tell you that you can’t have it. New York psychologist Bonnie Eaker Weil calls it “POP” spending — for “pissed-off purchases.” She did a survey before publishing her latest book, Financial Infidelity, and estimated from the results that POP spending accounts for about $424 billion in purchases each year.

One of Weil’s Brooklyn-based clients, for example, went on a retaliatory $500 shopping spree when her husband gave one of her beat-up old jackets to charity without asking her first. When she got home, she informed him that since he didn’t like her old jacket, she had gotten a new one from Saks Fifth Avenue. Such purchases can also result from a fight with your boss, mother, or best friend, according to Weil.

But as good as retaliatory spending may feel, it can do real damage to your financial health. Tarbox says a better approach is to talk out the anger, hurt, or disappointment — or just your bad day — with a friend, or even a professional counselor. If you have to spend money on a psychologist, it’s probably still cheaper than the golf clubs or designer shoes you put on your credit card after that last argument with the boss.

5. Hanging On to Debt

The number of people who have money in savings accounts, earning less than 2 percent, while carrying debt on credit cards that charge more than 14 percent is “shocking,” Wallaert says. Of Thrive’s customers who have more than $500 in credit card debt, almost 40 percent have more than enough in savings to pay it off, he says.

Wallaert connects this mistake to “mental accounting” that separates our money into different stacks that we think ought to stay separate. But illogical separations can create mathematical mayhem.

Consider a person with $5,000 in credit card debt and $10,000 in savings. The debt costs him 14 percent per year, or $700, but the $10,000 in savings earns just 2 percent annually, or $200. He could pay off the debt, saving the $700, and still earn $100 annually on the remaining $5,000 in savings. Net result: He’s immediately $600 richer and can start saving faster.

You might argue that you need those savings for emergencies. And you do need some emergency savings, allows Frank C. Presson III, a financial planner in Tucson, Ariz. But if you’ve got considerably more savings than debt, there’s no excuse. Keep one month’s worth of living expenses in the bank, even at those sorry returns, Presson advises. Use the rest to pay off the high-cost debt. Then rebuild the emergency savings, not the debt. Worst-case scenario: You still have the credit cards (now with zero balances), and you can tap them in an emergency.

6. Parental Martyrdom

An emerging problem involves parents who spend themselves to the edge of insolvency bailing out their children. “It starts from a good place, basically from wanting to be a good parent,” Klontz says. “They’ll say that Johnny is going through a rough patch and needs some help. But it becomes financial enabling.”

Worse, it often causes the parents to suffer money woes that keep them from retiring or living comfortably because they’re constantly paying Johnny’s bills.

Any time you help an adult child, you should have a clear idea of how much help is necessary, how long it will be required, how it will help the child get back on his or her feet, and when (or whether) the child will have to pay you back. When there’s no plan — just an open checkbook or couch — you turn the child into a dependent who becomes increasingly incapable of taking care of himself, Klontz says.

“I talk to the parents about how their attempts to help are like giving a drink to an alcoholic because his hand is shaking. This kind of helping is hurting,” he says. “Then we talk about what kind of help would really help.” (Hint: That kind generally doesn’t involve cash.)

7. Cyber Insecurity

Roughly half the world has signed on for free online banking, which makes money management easier and saves the typical consumer about $50 annually in postage stamps. Among the people who don’t use online banking, 41 percent say they’ve held back because of security concerns, according to a recent survey by Gartner Research.

What do banks typically do to secure online customer accounts? They put up multiple firewalls, which are the equivalent of brick enclosures around your house, and they have techno-security teams attempting to find the weak spots and shore them up. They also patrol the firewalls 24/7, looking for climbers.

Now, let’s look at your mailbox. It’s probably unlocked and unguarded — just what a thief needs to steal your credit cards. In reality, the chance of becoming a victim of identity theft or financial fraud as the result of low-tech crime — whether it’s somebody stealing cards or “spoofing” you into providing private information via e-mail — is a lot greater than the chance that somebody will breach your bank’s online vault.

So sign up already and save the stamps. And if you’re worried about security, check your account regularly to make sure there’s no suspicious activity.

8. State of Denial

Remember when you were 2 years old and you thought you could hide by closing your eyes? When the stock market plunged last winter and spring, that’s just what investors did, leaving their quarterly statements sitting unopened on the counter.

If watching too closely would make you abandon a reasoned investment strategy, go ahead and ignore a statement or two. But losses don’t go away just because you don’t look at them, Tarbox points out. At some point, particularly if you’re nearing retirement or need the dough for some other reason, you need to take a look, assess where you are, and figure out what to do about it.

9. Hoarding Money

Children of the Depression did a lot of this — stuffing $20 bills in their bibles or balling up tinfoil and rubber bands so they wouldn’t have to buy more. But planners say that this is often a problem with wealthy and responsible older folks today: They’re so afraid of running out of money that they don’t enjoy the money that they have.

“When people deny themselves things that they could clearly afford, you have to ask them what they’re saving that money for,” Tarbox says. “We have to tell them that they’re not spending enough.”

If you’re worried about running out of money, sit down with a financial planner and work out the math. Make sure you consider worst-case investment scenarios, not just the averages. That will make you more comfortable about weathering a bad patch like the one we just muddled through. Then, if you still have more than enough, make a plan that will allow you to enjoy your wealth by either spending the excess or giving it away.

Money, after all, is a means to an end — not the end itself. You save it to make you, and the people you love, calm and comfortable. And it’s a lot more fun to take the kids and grandkids on vacation — or provide them with college money or other gifts while you’re around to get the hugs and kisses — than to know that they’ll inherit a fortune after you die.

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    Pro2ProNetwork

    11/19/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    This article was wonderful to read and very true. I can relate to many of these especially purchasing items on sale or buying something out of anger. Looking back, I know I was being foolish, but at that moment it's hard to see how irrational I was. Sometimes you really need to step outside yourself for a moment when it comes to financial planning so you don't make these mistakes.

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    Stephen Howard-Sarin

    11/19/09 | Report as spam

    Um, airline points mania anyone?

    I have two credit cards: one with a lower interest rate and it gives me airline points, and one with a higher interest rate (and a higher balance!) that gives me no points. Which do I pay off first?

    Uh-huh: the one with points. How foolish is that?

    I can do math, really I can, but it was like some Devil willing my mouse forward to "send the payment ... get the points ... the points."

    So tack on #11 for me: letting uneconomic loyalty programs skew where you spend.

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    RJB29

    11/23/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Whilst I found Kathy's article very entertaining I am concerned about how the role of emotion in decision making is parodied. Hasn't our recent economic downturn taught us to beware the self regulating market economy and slavish adherence to the fallacy of homos economicus?

    Maybe we need to listen to our hearts a little when making desions perhaps even give up a day's work and help out with a charity. The tangible returns maybe minimal in fact you will almost certainly record a loss but the soul food will be immense.

    I would be interested to read the 9 Dumbest Things Not To Do With Your Money.

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    Tim Noyce

    11/24/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    On the "fungibility" problem, ie not paying off your debt with your savings, the driver is of course that the people concerned do not trust themselves not to run up a new credit card debt, creating a situation in which they have a debt and no savings, which is still worse than debt and savings.

    In the excellent book Nudge by Richard Thaler and Cas Sunstein describe this process of "mental accounting". It is not perfect homo economicus behaviour, but it beats the alternative human behaviour.

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    Kathy Kristof

    12/03/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Tim, you're so right. Even as experts were telling me how foolish
    it was to have debt and savings, they were also saying that's
    it's really important to know yourself well enough not to use the
    savings to pay off the debt--and then run up the debt again.
    There are a lot of people who could benefit from some form of
    credit counseling to understand why they get into so much
    trouble and try to find techniques to stop themselves.

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    Kathy Kristof

    12/03/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    RJB, I'm a huge supporter of giving up time--and money--for
    charity. If you read my blog, you know that I spent a week
    this fall working on a house for Habitat for Humanity and will
    soon post a piece on how to give wisely.

    I also think its a great trade-off to give up some income for
    more time with your kids. I think our hearts should drive some
    of our financial decisions, but money decisions have to unite
    your heart and your head. And they should never be driven
    by fear (caution, yes. fear, no.).

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    Kathy Kristof

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    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Howard, thanks for #11. (And know that the credit card
    companies KNOW that's how you react to points, which is why
    they offer them..) I love the story.

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    Kathy Kristof

    12/03/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Pro2, I just interviewed this fascinating behavioral psychologist,
    who was talking about the techniques people can use to stop
    themselves from this sort of bad behavior. One simple tip: Say, I
    am going to buy that....tomorrow. Write it down. Make a plan to
    buy it later (to deal with the impulse), but wait. If you really
    don't want it or need it, you'll come to your senses before
    pulling out a credit card.

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    DEJO99

    12/11/09 | Report as spam

    8. State of Denial ?

    While I agree with most of the tips written above, I must admit that I strongly disagree with the #8, state of denial. On investment, their is always 2 sacred rules to be observed if you wish to make money: diverting your investment, and seeking for long term investment (at least 5 year, 15 to 30 is better). If you start to look at your at your stock values on a daily basis, you'll most likely breaking the second rule, meaning when the prices will go down, you'll panic and will want to sell assets at their lowest price (and thus concretising the lost) and when the price will rise, buying them at overpriced rate with the belief that the price will rise forever... (This also stick with the tips #2 Chasing a fantasy)

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    Kathy Kristof

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    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Hey Dejo. Did I say you should look daily? I agree, if you look
    too often, you'll get thrown off your path. But you've gotta
    check every once in a while.

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    Eveningstar

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    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    The most stupidest and dumbest thing I ever, ever did with my money I had saved and work so damn hard for, is to end up spending and helpin people whom I think were "friends" and whom I thought would show a little gratefulness, much less being thankful at all. I've learned my lesson so very well now! To hell with these ungratefuls and unthankfuls...If you have cash saved up, keep all your money close to you, and if you can afford, lavish yourself a little with it from time to time and enjoy life, and only aid those who truly deserve your kindness and generosity of heart - ONLY answer to the cries of those who can't help themselves physically. Those who are physically challenged or on disability. Trust me, you'll end up feeling good helping these poor souls when you know they're grateful and have a place in their hearts for you when you've helped them!!! I have been a Parental Martyr to kids who are not even my own!!! What an idiot! Never again.

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    Samuel N. Asare

    01/22/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Kathy, nice piece.
    However, as a retirement planner for many years I must point out that just by NOT owning more than 10% or whatever number of a stock CANNOT and SHOULD NOT be seen as a solution to the market risk problem that investors face.

    FACT is, stocks go up and down. No financial professional has the ability to predict the exact future movements. I have consulted with several folks who did everything by the book - diversified stocks- yet whose investments were decimated when the market drops.

    My working theory is that regardless of where investors are in their planning process only 2 things matter- FACTS and COMMON-SENSE! http://www.laserfg.com

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    kittenheart

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    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Thr dumbset thing I ever do, is to give or spend money on things that someone comes to me for, or tries to tell me what I should do. I have learned that if it does not pop in my head, without exterior mouths flapping in my ear, then do NOT listen, and wait until I have my own ideas of what to do, and where ot spend, my own money. I have given thoughtlessly of myself all of my life. Then, a couple years ago, when I needed someone to help me, and I had no place to go, their wasn't anyone who would help me. People who lived alone said I could not stay with them for a while because of this reason or that. I call them excuses. I never had a "reason" or excuse not to help them. I did without htinking twice. I will never be blind to the selfishness of others again.

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    Jbayer55

    04/19/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    These are all good points. I have been in the lending industry for many years from prime to sub-prime. All consumers make some 'goofy' financial decisions. However, the folks who continue to make the above decisions over and over usually find themselves applying for a Short term loan, which can further lead to the cycle of debt problems.

    I think Kathy Kristof made a great point: take the time to write it down before making the decision. The added time and putting it on paper is worth money.

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    UrviThinks

    05/04/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Very nicely written...
    very witty..
    to the point ...
    a fun read .. with a tough lesson embedded ....

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    shawas

    05/09/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    As an add-on to the parenting bit, I can attest that even being a new parent makes it easy to get caught in a cycle of overspending on your baby.

    My husband and I are in the military, stationed very far from any family or friends, so since our baby was born we kind of accepted that we would be buying more than most people who have the luxury of their kinship being in close proximity.

    Recently I pulled out some receipts and started doing math, and found that all of those purchases we made while walking through the baby aisles at stores actually were a lot more significant than the $40 or so we thought we were spending each time. Not counting the necessities, we've spent about $1,500 in the 4 months since the baby was born. On toys she's to little to play with yet, clothes she grew out of as fast as we could buy them, decorations for her room that she doesn't yet spend any time in, bottles that were "cuter" than the last ones we bought, etc..

    We knew we would always want the best for our baby, but we've definitely been overdoing it.

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    hm46

    05/09/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    This story misses the point which simply is the American consumer is an egotistical, self-entitled, spendthrift who is unable to control their instant gratification mindset.

    This country needs to go back to the mindset of those who lived thru the depression and become SAVERS.

    The only commentary that needs to be made are the following numerical statistics:

    Total national debt > 13 trillion
    Total private sector asset base (per the Fed) > 54 trillion

    Percent of national debt to private sector asset base > approx 23%

    Debt per citizen > $41,933
    Savings per citizen > $1,583

    Percent of savings versus debt > 3.7751%


    Based on these figures (http://www.usdebtclock.org/) citizens of this country should immediately become hoarders / savers or whatever one wants to call it.

    Whether GDP drastically shrinks is unimportant. The only important point is that this nation and its citizens must eliminate our tremendous indebtedness before what is occurring in Greece happens here.

    One wonders if this country and its citizens have the BACKBONE to face this problem.

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    StockTrendInvesting

    05/10/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    People that are disciplined and educated in other professional areas start investing their hard earned money in the stock market without a clear strategy or approach in mind. Emotions will take over then.

    The other problem when you just invest without defining before when you would step in or when you would step out of the market is that you have always the feeling that you lose. You are or too late, or too early or you didn't do anything while you should have.

    Use a strategy like Stock Trend Investing or any other approach that you understand, that works for you and provides you with a frame work on how and when to act in the market. Life is to short to have sleepless nights because of corrections and market movements like those of the last few days.

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    Stephen Howard-Sarin

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    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    @shawas: You are brave to pull out those receipts! I am sure many parents (myself included) would find the same result if we had the courage to tally it all up.

    You might want to check out a new story we posted this weekend: "Best Money Lessons from Mom"
    http://moneywatch.bnet.com/economic-news/article/mothers-day-best-money-lessons-from-mom/417893/

    It includes several bits of wisdom on how to pass on your money-mindedness to your kids.

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    all4mylilangels

    05/25/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    ** PLS EVERYONE READ!!**

    It all comes down to our values and teaching your children values! I don't understand these crazy women spending all this money because they are angry! No wonder our economy is so bad when people in this country are taught to be so greedy and spoiled to waste money like this! It is all because we don't appreciate or respect money anymore and think we deserve all this stuff!

    I hope that lady returned all or most of ithe stuff she bought after her temper tantrum! I love to shop don't get me wrong but I was taught to value every dollar and how to shop very wisely. I am sick of hearing about women spending so much money on clothes etc.! I love clothes and and consider myself fashionable but never spend more that $10.-$40. per week and my annual income is around $80,000.! I hear about women on welfare spending $200.00 on shoes!I have a college degree and work hard and would never spend more than $20.00 or $25.00 max on dress shoes! Payless Shoe Source is my Best Friend for Dress Shoes!)

    MUCH MORE IMPORTANTLY!! - It is so sad that our grandparents went throught The Great Depression and worked so hard to make sure their kids (our parents) could go to college and have a decent easier life than they had, yet still some educated intelligent Americans are so spoiled and unappreciate of how easy they have it and are never taught to value money and waste it in disgusting ways like that!

    My grandfather graduated as Valadictorian in High School in 1929 righ before the Great Depression hit in 1929. My Dad always tells me the story about how smart he was and how he really wanted to go to college but due to the Depression starting right when he graduated in, he chose to help take care of his 10 brothers and sisters.

    He made sure my Dad went to college, who became a college professor! I also went to college and graduated. My Dad paid for me to go to college and I feel so thankful that my parents taught me the value of hard work and money!

    My husband would divorce me if I was that inconsiderate and selfish like that lady! (not really, but he should b/c I would be a horrible, selfish person to do something like that!) Yet, I hear so many stories every day about other women (or men) who waste money like that! I am so sick of how spoiled rotten we are in this country!!

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    Shirley P

    06/01/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    With the economy in the mess it is right now we can all benefit with a little of the frugality learned from those that survived the great depression. Things are going to get much worse and we better start believing that a penny saved is a penny earned.
    Manufacturing jobs are gone, the middle class is gone, and what will you do when the unemployment checks run out?

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    SuzyScorpion

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    Just testing as a guest

    Just testing to see if this will work.

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    SuzyScorpion

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    How Much is Enough?

    My husband and I came into a little bit of money, but I'm wondering if it's even enough to seek out the help of a financial advisor? Right now in the bank, we have a little less than $20k. About $19,300 to be more "on the button." The problem is, we've come into money before, about $45k, from my father's estate (split equally between my siblings), but we were so dumbfounded with having that much money, that we literally spent it all (paid off all our debt, also vacationed, bought a few luxury items).. So, now I'm afraid of that happening again! Any advice anyone?

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    SuzyScorpion

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    Addendum: How long it took to spend

    I forgot to mention, that with my inheritance, it took us only about 7 months to deplete our account! I know that doesn't sound like a long time, but to us (back then), we thought we were doing well, but in the end, just not well enough! Thanks!

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    Kathy Kristof

    06/02/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Hey Suzy. The smartest thing to do with your money is going
    to depend on a lot of factors, including whether you have
    debt and how old you are. For the moment, I'd put it in
    certificates of deposit. Then, I'd get down to a Consumer
    Credit Counseling Service office to find out how to get my
    spending under control. (Spending $45,000 in a few
    months...and the fact that you had credit card debt...may
    indicate that you need help with budgeting.) Once I was
    certain that I wasn't going to spend beyond my means, then
    I'd take half that money and invest for the long term and put
    half in an emergency fund.

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    SuzyScorpion

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    Re: Thanks Kathy!!

    Hi Kathy, thanks for responding to my post! I'll attempt to answer all of your questions.

    My husband will be 51 this month and I'll be 47 in October. Together we are a blended family with 3 adult sons, whom live w/ us. At this point in time right now, we have absolutely
    no debt.

    When we 1st got my husband's inheritance, we bought myself
    a car with cash. We were so sick of having car payments! I'm not sure if I mentioned in my earlier post that as soon as my husband had the money in the bank, he paid off every credit card we have, and to this day we still have $0 balance on every card.

    Our income is more than what we have for bills, which are the
    basics: Electric, rent, oil, cable tv/internet, etc. But not one red cent goes to credit cards, unless of course we happen
    to use a credit card, which we don't at this time.

    Well, that's it.. So sorry if I went on and on and on.. I tend to do that sometimes... Take care, Suzy

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    Kathy Kristof

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    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    That's great Suzy. Then, if you have an emergency fund,
    start investing in index funds. I always recommend Vanguard
    because their funds are good and cost-effective. You can
    also do a target date retirement fund, which leaves the
    decisions about asset allocation (how much to put in stocks;
    bonds; cash; etc) to them. Or you can find my Investing 101
    book and read through the "Lazy Man's Guide to Investing" --
    Chapter 13. It tells you how much to put in each asset class,
    depending on your age and circumstances and where to find
    appropriate investments for that portion of your portfolio.
    Good luck!

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    Vera Lenora

    06/09/10 | Report as spam

    Invest

    When I was 24 years old I started putting money into the hands of an investment firm. At age 70, they told me, I'd have $1.4 million dollars. That firm was yanked by regulators for selling life insurance policies as annuities. Before they were yanked, since things were not going well, I moved to another company. They went bankrupt. Just before they went bankrupt (again, my money was going nowhere) I moved to a 3rd company which is now under investigation for taking kickbacks. I have $78,000 in my retirement account. I also have a good retirement plan from Iowa Public Employeees Retirement and SS, and inherited the family farm. I'm very, very lucky and thank God often. Investing didn't work. Only luck worked. I'd have been better off putting my money in my mattress. I LOST money by trying to be responsible. Now? I'm going to move my money to the small local bank -- which still requires 20% down for mortgages, etc. -- and see what they can do with it. I hope that at least I won't lose anymore capitol.

    Vera Lenora

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    Tracy R

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    savings

    Thanks for the great article, I am however not sure of the savings part. We have a good amount in our account and I am using the Crown.org tools to help me contribute more. My goal is to grow our savings to 25000.00 we are only 9000.00 away from our goal. Our house is at 42000.00 and I have figured how much to pay extra for early payoff. I would like to pay it off in the next 7 years. My thought is to save up to 25000.00 and pay down the balance the balance on the house to 20000.00 and be able to pay off the house and still have 5000.00 in the bank. We do owe a small amount to credit cards like 3000.00. But, I am able to make payments of 670.00
    per month to pay down our balance quickly. One payment is interest free until Jan 2011 and the other the interest is like 8%. So I do not want to take the money out of savings knowing I can have it paid off in 6 months. I know I will pay a small amount of interest but my saving account interest is down to a small return due to the economy. Any thoughts???
    Tracy in AR

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    Kathy Kristof

    06/16/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Hi Tracy. Make paying off the credit cards the first priority. (I
    would do that with some of your substantial emergency
    fund.) Then dedicate the amount you had been paying on the
    credit cards to rebuilding the emergency fund and finally
    paying off that mortgage. Unless you have a subprime loan
    (and I can't see any reason that you would with these
    fabulous credit habits), your mortgage is cheap. And if you do
    this in the right order, you could pay it off in a couple of
    years while preserving the flexibility you get with emergency
    savings.
    Nice work, by the way. Few people can say they only have a
    $45,000 in debt, including their mortgage.

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    restajf

    07/08/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    My husband and I are semi-retired. We need to work part-time to pay bills. We pull in approx. 5K per month and have
    $8K in credit card debts, a $230K mortgage. We have very little savings (a little over $2K) and an $18K IRA. What do we do first?

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    Kathy Kristof

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    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Restaif, the first step -- always -- is to get rid of the credit
    card debt. Once you do, you should have extra room in your
    budget to save. I'd leave the mortgage alone, mainly because
    it's not likely that you can make a significant dent in it and, at
    this point, you'd be better served by building up some cushion
    with a savings account.

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    Mctuck03

    08/07/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    I have no credit card debt, a mortgage of $67,000 which will
    be paid off in 6 1/2 years. I am saving $500 per month in a
    money market fund, $500 per month in a credit union,
    neither of these is earning very much but I got started with it
    years ago for the convenience of automatic withdrawals. I
    am 56 years old, my daughter will graduate from college in 1
    year and (hopefully) will be somewhat independent. I work
    in healthcare and feel my job is secure. I am fully vested and
    maxed out in my contribution toward my pension plan. I
    have approximately $20,000 in savings. These are the things
    I want to do: retire at 67 and travel some. Should I get a
    financial planner? I am not at all savvy at investing and I
    know those hard earned dollars in savings are not growing
    very fast.

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    zmiller965

    08/13/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    This was an interesting article, and I think a lot of it was very
    true. I especially agree with the Internet section, because I
    work with networks and firewalls everyday, and I can tell you
    from experience that there is a WAYY smaller chance that your
    info will be stolen online. There are definitely people in the world
    that have the ability to access your information if they really
    wanted to, but those people are probably not very concerned
    with stealing your 30,000 dollar savings account number, as
    most of them probably are working for the CIA. haha.

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    SuzyScorpion

    08/14/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    I wrote earlier in June, asking for advice with money in the bank
    and here I am again, looking for advice again. My husband and I
    were just recently on vacation in NH. We went to a lot of the shopping outlets to buy great sales. So my husband went to use one of his credit cards, just to find that it was declined, even though there was a $0 balance. We haven't used it in at least 9 months! That was the problem though! They closed my husband's credit card just b/c he hadn't used it enough! What? We both have great credit and yet we were declined at the register! I was floored, but it was a lesson that yes we have to put some kind of little debt on each of our cards, or they would just all follow suit and close each and every credit card on us!

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    SuzyScorpion

    08/14/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Okay, so I guess I answered my own question, and gave myself my own advice!! LOL..

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    Research It

    08/21/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    I am very fortunate that my wife and I have always been on the same financial belief tract. She is an incredible manager of herself and other things that she is responsible for. Even when she was only 21 years old, we lived in a very high cost area and she planned meals for 30 days at a time to make the money stretch. That kept us out of stores, except when necessary, and ensured that we had healthy meals. She did not work outside the home and that required very careful financial planning on both of our part, and hard work on my part to work to progress. In spite of money being hard to come by and living in a very high cost area, and her not working outside the home, we committed to give 1/10th of our income to charity as soon as I received a large enough pay raise to do that. We also give even more as we can during this economic downturn to help those elderly who need help through a benevolence fund. We never drove a new car until I was in middle management; we never had cable TV until in middle management; never had color TV for years; did without TV when our black and white TV quit working and waited until an opportune time to buy color TV at a tremendously good price; and never had two cars at one time except good used ones. When with only one car, she would drive me to work, keep the car, and take care of whatever needed to be done during the day. We worked together when dealing with a car salesman to ensure that we received as low a price on a car as possible. We always have done really well when buying a used or new cars by working together in dealing with the salesman. Another thing, we believe that for most purchases, two brains are better than one. Sometimes, she would make a wise point that I had missed before making a purchase and sometimes I would be the one to make a wise point. We have always worked as a team to avoid making financial mistakes. Sure, we are not perfect but we know that we almost always make the best decision possible by bouncing most everything on the other. Bad financial decisions are toxic to a marriage and even other relationships. Before making significant purchases, we tirelessly research the item. Once when 1800 miles from home and we needed mechanical assistance, I researched (through random people) to try to ensure that I got an honest, good mechanic. That worked out beautifully. We figure that money saved on bad decisions is money earned. For entertainment when in the high cost area and low pay, we went to the beach and other nice, free or low cost activities, or just picniced with friends.

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    Research It

    08/21/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    HM46- I agree that I do not know whether our countrymen will belly up to do what needs to be done. One fear is that people will do so in 2012 and then when the newly elected does hard things with congress to rectify the problems, voters will then turn on them and then put a spend thrift back in the election of 2016. We will have to wait to see what happens as history unfolds.

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    Bigfoot16EEE

    09/01/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Cyber Insecurity discused bank firewalls. Comment needs to be added on how it is now nearly impossible to secure the other end of the cyber bank connection, your home computer, and how the computing industry and government have done little to stop theft, so the thieves are winning. User beware.

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    Kathy Kristof

    09/02/10 | Report as spam

    RE: Dumbest Things You Do With Your Money

    Bigfoot, you're right. The one caveat here is that if you have a personal (not business) account, the funds in your account are protected by regulation E. If you have a business account, you need to be very aware of security because fraud losses are your problem, not the bank's.

    More on this here: http://moneywatch.bnet.com/saving-money/blog/devil-details/online-robbery-hackers-steal-50000-bank-says-tough-luck/1482/

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