Alicia Munnell: ‘Now We’re Just Going to Have to Suck It Up Longer’

Professor Alicia Munnell

Alicia Munnell could be enjoying her retirement, but she’s hard at work thinking about yours. Her message is a bracing dose of tough love: Like it or not, in today’s economy you’re almost certainly going to have to postpone your retirement by a few years.

That’s not easy to take, and it may not be easy to do, either. But it doesn’t have to be a bummer. In an interview with MoneyWatch, retirement guru Munnell, who heads the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College, outlines how to stay in the game as long as you need — and enjoy it, too.

A sharp decline in market and home values has convinced many people they’ll need to work longer. But can they?

The most obvious problem right now is the economy. It is a very difficult market to keep a job. The irony is that just as people recognize the need to work longer there are strong forces working against them.

[But] after this crisis is over, older workers need to face the fact that their productivity is, on average, equal to or lower than that of a younger person, whereas their cost to employers is either equivalent or higher. Basically, wages tend to go up and health care costs rise. And if you happen to have an old-fashioned defined benefit plan, those costs to employers are, of course, higher for you. So you have this basic mismatch between the productivity and the cost of older workers.

So, if I am an older worker, I have a bull’s-eye on my back?

It would be helpful to recognize that, on average, the cost-benefit calculation from the employer’s perspective is not favorable for you. So you really have to sell yourself. That involves saying to your employer, “Listen, I am planning to work until I am 67, and I am only 57 now, so that means you can count on me for ten years. I know what this company is about, and I want to be considered for training and promotion.” That goes over better with bosses than just sitting around going through Florida brochures.

What happened to early retirement? This is depressing.

When you suggest that working longer is the solution, there is this reaction: “I can’t work until my 90s!” [laughter] You don’t have to. We just want to get the message out that working two to four years longer makes such a huge difference [in your retirement security]. It’s not working forever. And we shouldn’t feel so persecuted for having to work longer. It treats work as this horrible burden. In fact, it is a calming thing to have that structure, and the social interaction and sense of accomplishment.

Besides an investing plan, we need a work strategy?

Exactly right.

What’s a good employment strategy if you’re in your 40s?

You can’t bumble along. You need to pick an age that it makes sense to retire and then, like a horse with blinders, stay focused on that goal. And you need to recognize that the ideal retirement age is your mid- to late 60s. Your 50s is no time to start moving into part time or sliding into retirement. I find this whole notion of gradual retirement just dangerous. At least it is when people in their 50s think that it applies to them.

Given that what you are doing today you are going to be doing for a long time, it is important to have a job that you enjoy, to the extent possible. Have a job that you can age with. Or, if you have a high-stress position today, start thinking about some trajectory that will take you to lower-pressure jobs as you age, but still build on your skills.

As you get older, there’s this tendency to get rid of things you don’t enjoy — people you don’t like, furniture you don’t like, clothes you don’t like. Psychologists we work with here refer to it as positivizing. To the extent work is distasteful as you age, there is this tendency to say, “I’m out of there,” and basically quit for what, in retrospect, look like frivolous reasons. You come home from a business trip stuck in the middle seat and say, “Never again.” Or you take a week off because of a broken ankle and enjoyed it, so you think you don’t need to work any longer.

Our hope is that if you know this about yourself — that it is a natural response — that maybe you can censor yourself a bit and not make decisions that don’t really work for you. We all just suck it up when we are young. Now we’re just going to have to suck it up longer.

Interested in reading more on the topic? Consider these studies from the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College:

Are Retirement Savings Too Exposed to Market Risk?

The Decline of Career Employment

The Housing Bubble and Retirement Security

Munnell’s most recent book, co-authored with CRR colleague Steven Sass, is Working Longer: The Solution to the Retirement Income Challenge.

 
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    Richard Eisenberg

    04/12/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Alicia Munnell: ?Now We?re Just Going to Have to Suck It Up Longer?

    Interesting. But what's the best advice for people in the 50s who lost their jobs and want to find new ones but are facing veiled age discrimination (see today's NYTimes online)?

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    careerchanger

    04/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Alicia Munnell: ?Now We?re Just Going to Have to Suck It Up Longer?

    As a person in their 50's who had to leave her career behind and start over, I can attest to the incredible amount of age bias that is there...here is what I learned:
    1. Bring up the fact that you are older but that you embrace technology and change: I always mention that I am the one that people come to to learn about things like which website offers the best prices for things...or how Facebook works...or how to download Youtube videos...or how to use Photoshop.
    2. I always mention during an interview how good my health is; how many hours of sick leave I took last year (9 hours mostly for standard appointments like checkups and teeth cleaning); how productive I am and how I like to learn...volunteer the stuff you know they are thinking about so you can get it into the open.
    3. I always mention that I don't expect to be paid what I was paid in my old job because I expect to be paid what the new job should be paying based on what they are looking for.
    Anyway, I succeeded in making my career change and now I am always looking for my next job and try to submit an application at least once a quarter. You always want your resume to be up to snuff and to be ready for the next job and it is easier to look when employed than not employed.

    Don't give up; when I found the job I have now, I really had to sell myself even though the wages were very low compared to what I had been doing...I work for someone twenty years younger but we love working together. I find that often the most discriminating are people MY age who are still working.

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    FirecrackerBaby57

    04/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Alicia Munnell: ?Now We?re Just Going to Have to Suck It Up Longer?

    Thousands have delayed their retirement plans in favor of workamping - any work done while living in a motorhome or travel trailer. Google the word "workamper" and you will see what I mean. In the last year, my mom and her husband have taken workamping jobs in Maine at a canoe/bicycle rental, a distribution center for Amazon.com in Kansas, and an opera camp in the Arkansas Ozarks. They've gotten to see the color of New England in the fall, mix with professional musicians and see first-class opera performances, and pocket big hourly wages... AND... they've avoided tapping into their IRA's. Workamping has provided them with income AND helped them to continue to travel.

    If you are looking for a way to "retire" creatively and affordably, being a workamper might just be the ticket.

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    jenyj89

    06/19/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Alicia Munnell: ?Now We?re Just Going to Have to Suck It Up Longer?

    As a federal civil service employee with 24+ years and the ability to retire potentially retire as soon as 56 years old (in 7.5 years), I am looking forward to possibly being able to do that!!

    I am in a high stress job and hopefully can retire and get out of it. My only child will be out of college and hopefully self-sufficient. Our bills should be do-able on my husband's civil service and military retirement income...plus my retirement...and I am more than happy to get a part-time job. I would be more than happy to get a full-time job doing something that is very low stress, like an assembly line, or Walmart, or a waitress or whatever but I am sick to death of the stress on my current job...no matter what the pay!!!

    Suck it up a bit longer....sorry but some of us just can't do it for our own mental health!

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    odle

    08/25/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Alicia Munnell: ?Now We?re Just Going to Have to Suck It Up Longer?

    Nice post. But, what is good advice for unemployment people in the 50s?
    regards,

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    odle

    08/25/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Alicia Munnell: ?Now We?re Just Going to Have to Suck It Up Longer?

    Nice post. But, what is good advice for unemployment people in the 50s?
    regards,
    stop dreaming start action

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