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How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

Marion Presser Kurn and Mike Kurn, of Manalapan, N.J., were so very close to having an empty nest. Their two eldest children appeared to be launching successful careers, and their youngest daughter had just graduated from a local community college. Reality first intruded when their 28-year-old daughter Cheryl, who was in New York chasing her dream of a life in television, found that part-time contract work wasn’t enough to pay the bills, and she moved back in. Next up: their 25-year-old son Matt, who had studied criminal justice and become a cop, one of the few rock-solid gigs around in this economy. Then he announced he was "rethinking his career," and he quit. Welcome back, Matt. Meanwhile, like so many recent college graduates, their 21-year-old daughter Jodi, is struggling to find the right job, so she’s still at home.

For now, all three are working at Mike’s gym. In the meantime, the elder Kurns have seen their grocery bill skyrocket and have even had to absorb a spike in their electric and gas tabs. The elder Kurns had hoped to be focused on saving for retirement by now.

“There’s no point in kicking them out,” says Marion, 54. “Where would they go?”

Indeed, that’s a question many parents are struggling with as the worst job market in a generation and burgeoning student debt conspire to drive huge numbers of adult children back home to mommy and daddy. According to a 2009 survey by Peter D. Hart Research Associates, more than one third of workers under age 34 are living with their parents. And guess what? Parents of college kids face decent odds that Junior will need his old room back: MonsterTRAK, a division of Monster.com, found that just 54 percent of companies planned to hire new college grads this year, compared with 76 percent in 2007.

Making matters worse is the fact that young adults also face more debt than ever — average undergraduate student-loan debt is at a record high of $22,700, according to the College Board, and undergrads also carried sky-high credit card debt last year.

All of which means you shouldn’t be surprised when your daughter’s moving van heads straight from the sorority house to your doorstep. Here’s how to make the best of the situation and help ease your children out of the homestead. (Also, check out these tips for getting along with your boomerang brood from a kid on the opposite side of the fence, the writer of the popular [Stuff]MyDadSays Twitter feed).

Ground Rules

If you hope to ever get your kids out of the house, you need a plan in place before they move back. That plan should set a move-out deadline and define what they need to accomplish while they’re home, says Christina Newberry, co-author of The Hands-On Guide to Surviving Adult Children Living at Home. Newberry speaks from experience, having twice moved home to live with her parents in her 20s. She suggests families agree to a policy for everything from overnight guests to sharing the TV and the house computer. Do not baby your children, she warns. “If you treat them like a kid again, you’re not helping them — you are creating a lifestyle that they won’t be able to maintain when they leave,” she says. “Your job is to get them to where they don’t need you anymore.”

If your adult child works, set limits for what you are willing to pay for around the house (HBO? Yes. Their cell phone? No.), and agree on a specific date to start paying rent and an amount. A useful rule of thumb for how much to charge is 10 to 20 percent of take-home pay, which is less than the 30 percent the average person spends on rent, but enough to be meaningful to both parents and kids. Don’t feel right taking your child’s money? Use rent payments as a carrot by promising to hand the money back at the scheduled move-out time.

Sarah Kini, 24, recently moved from an apartment she shared in Boston’s South End to her parents’ house in Cambridge because her job just didn’t pay enough. At her mother Joanne’s request, Sarah is depositing the $800 she previously paid in rent into her savings account to be used toward an MBA; Joanne says she’ll check Sarah’s bank statements to make sure she’s depositing faithfully. She also plans to remove her daughter’s iPhone from her group phone plan and ask her to pay for gas on the borrowed car.

If your adult child doesn’t work, consider offering a work-for-rent arrangement that means something to you financially, such as mowing the lawn, paving the driveway, or painting the house. When James Peel, 24, moved home to Dallas after college in 2008, he helped his father, Bill, fix the family’s deck, an estimated $700 job if they’d hired a carpenter.

Job Search

After your twentysomething moves in, you need to make it their job to find a job. Applying for one job a day is a reasonable rule, says Abby Wilner, a researcher in higher education at the Pell Institute and co-author of Quarterlife Crisis and Quarterlifer’s Companion. Your adult child should be networking, going to job and industry events, contacting his alumni association, and researching target companies, rather than just applying to online job postings, she says.

If you’re itching to open your BlackBerry and share your contacts, tread lightly. “It’s a serious mistake for a parent to take that over unless the kid really wants it,” says Jane Isay, author of Walking on Eggshells: Navigating the Delicate Relationship Between Adult Children and Parents. Adult children in their 20s who are starting to assert some independence may not want your help, she says. A laid-off thirtysomething, however, might have the maturity to welcome the gesture. Also, as hard as it is to be objective about your offspring, try to make a judgment: Is your daughter ready for an interview with your old pal who is now head of sales at a big corporation? Or is the smarter path to ask your friend to recommend a younger salesperson who could give her some advice?

Asking your adult children to join your LinkedIn or other work-related social network can be helpful. But if you make the offer, do it with care. Let your business contacts know in advance that your child might be emailing them. And warn your young job applicant, a charter member of the Twitter generation, that it’s not cool to send a mass email to your contacts.

And while you may have to endure some eye rolling, review the basic rules of networking, such as how to use informational interviews and the importance of writing thank-you notes. Nudging your grown kid to change his job-search direction can help, too. Peel was having no luck finding a position at a public relations firm after an internship failed to turn into a full-time job. So his mother, Kathy, who runs a coaching firm, organized a family meeting to brainstorm. During summers and holiday breaks, James had worked in retail outlets and enjoyed sales work, so he tweaked his resume and cover letter to highlight his sales skills. Their efforts paid off when James landed a sales job at Guitar Center in Dallas. The family is now working on a budget to help him move out.

Tough Love

If a year passes and your child is still a permanent fixture on the couch, it’s time for a change, especially if he or she isn’t putting in the time and effort to find a job and move out.

A career counselor, with fees that range between $500 and $2,000, may be worth the cost to get your child back on track. A counselor can assess your children’s skills, clean up their resumes, and create career-action plans to get them moving. Hallie Crawford, an Atlanta-based career counselor, says it’s often her job to push adult kids to take an entry-level job — even if it isn’t their dream job — to get them started.

Parents also need to be unafraid to kick their kids out so they can grow up and start their own lives — even if it means they have to work a McJob and live with three roommates, says Jane Adams, a social psychologist and author who coaches parent-adult child relationships.

Susan, of Albany, N.Y., came to the reluctant conclusion that kids need a firm shove out the door. “My advice is to make it so uncomfortable at home that your kids flee,” she says. “By being too soft you are enabling them to stay.” After moving home in April, Susan’s 25-year-old daughter decided she really didn’t need to work, so she quit her retail job. Her room was a mess, and she had recently started inviting a new boyfriend home every evening. For Susan, who requested that we not use her last name, the boyfriend was the last straw. She imposed a 10 p.m. guest curfew.

Guess what happened? Her daughter moved out within a week.

Sure, in this economy, your kids have a fairly strong financial incentive to return to the nest. But some things are more powerful than money.

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    quakervamp

    10/13/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

    My parents kicked me out after a brief stint of living at home at 24. I ended up living in a weird boarding house in Portland, Oregon, paying pennies for a bunkbed in a basement, which made me feel normal again. You're SUPPOSED to be broke and living in squalor in your twenties. It's a rite of passage.

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    Juffowup

    10/13/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

    I moved back in with my parents after a startup I was in failed, and started up a new company from their basement. I was there for a year before I started making money.

    The company is now however doing spectacular, and I'm not sure I would have been in this situation if it wasn't for moving back home. I would've had to get some crappy temp job and run my company half-time and doubt I would've been as successful. And heck, both them & I enjoyed a chance to re-connect and be a family again.

    There's no shame in going back home to your parents if you're planning to leave at some point in the future.

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    Juffowup

    10/13/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

    Also, don't be stupid. Don't do something like try to go to LA to try to be an actor with no cash and little plan as to how you're going to support yourself. You're DEFINITELY going to end up at home that way.

    Have a sane plan in place for your life at all times, and a few backup plans. Use your parents as a life raft, not your house-boat.

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    ah12

    10/13/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

    I donot agree with this.Its true that you would want ur kids to be independent & have successful lives. But if scenarios like today exists, there is no harm in supporting your kids after all they are ur own. As the article says ?My advice is to make it so uncomfortable at home that your kids flee,?.Thats tyrannical.

    Instead you can boost their confidence to focus on things they are good at, build them up to the level to face the world, dont just kick them out for the sake of it. In some cultures,kids stay with their folks in their twenties sometimes stretching until they are married. And they turn out to be successful ,normal people. Also whats the fun in being empty nest.Loneliness gets to you escpecially at older age & research points out that it is the cause of many diseases.

    So why not promote healthy family relationship ,that is rapidly decreasing these days ?

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    kimberg30

    10/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

    What's so fun about an empty nest? Do a random survey of older parents. Bet you'll find a lot of them are doing things they never got to do when they had kids - like reading the paper on a Sunday morning, taking trips, pursuing hobbies. Raising kids is hard work. When kids turn 18, if they are healthy and able-bodied, they DESERVE a chance to make it in the world. Sure, it's fine for a kid to come home for a few months between jobs, but enabling your kid - ie, cooking for him when he's 30 and doing his laundry and buying his food - is just not OK, nor is it a "healthy" relationship.

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    kaart

    10/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

    The best way I've heard to help your kids take that risk and learn to make it on their own: announce that after a lot of thought you and your spouse have decided to embrace the nudist lifestyle.

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    demynangel

    10/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest


    I'm one of the boomerang kids last year. I spent the whole year without doing anything in my parents house. But i keep looking for jobs and went to a handful of unsuccessful interview. Finally, my dad step in, and introduce me to one of his friend, whom im working with right now. So, parents help in finding you a job, is not a mistake, at all. At least for me.

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    Juffowup

    10/16/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

    Yeah the key here I think is to get the kid working on self-sufficiency actively. If they're doing that, there's nothing wrong with giving shelter. If not, there's a problem and I think that's when the whole "tough love" thing needs to happen.

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    hartc1

    10/19/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

    Our 30Yr old have been home for a year, (third time back) he works, has saved no money (1K per month) and will be layed off in a couple weeks. The daughter has 2 kids (2 and 3yrolds) she's been there a year and a half and in no better financial shape then when she moved in.

    So I drink more and that creates problems in the marriage ...

    Regards

    The Stupid Step Dad.

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    jenyj89

    10/27/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

    I have a son who just turned 20 and is still living at home. He diddled around and wasted 2 years at a Community College before deciding that college wasn't his thing (no shocker there!!). After a long sit down talk, he's decided on a Culinary Arts Certificate Program at University of SC in Columbia. He'll have classes at night and can work during the day.

    Right now he's looking for a job for the daytime...with little luck. It's a tough economy out there but I also admit he's not as highly motivated as I would like to think he is. I've promised to pay for school (books, uniforms, etc) but told him I won't pay for gas or extra's money. If he needs money for gas, he'd better have a job...I've said if he has to borrow money from me for gas (because he was too lazy to get a job) then it will be a LOAN and he WILL pay it back.

    I've also decided (although he doesn't know this yet), once he gets a job and is settled into it...he will take over a few of his bills that I currently pay. But I will give him some time.

    He'll finish school just about the time he turns 21. If he needs some time to find a job, that's fine too, but it won't be forever. I believe in encouraging independence in kids. I'm hoping his going to school over in Columbia will help him develop some friends over there, possibly a job, maybe encourage him to move over there, find a roommate to move in with, etc...it's only 30-35 miles from home so it would be close enough but far enough for a good start. Encourage independence and help your kids to become their own people or they will stagnate and never mature. That's what my parents did for me and I hope that's what I'm doing for my son.

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    ClydeP

    10/27/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

    Thinking back, at the end of the 60's and early 70's staying in Dad's house wasn't an option. Sure some of my friends did while they were at the local University but, most were either gone away to school, to a mission (I grew up in Salt Lake City), or in the military.

    All of us had the goal to be out of the house as soon as we could and not be depending on Dad.

    None of our 4 kids have come back - yet. One year all 4 lived in our house while each of them were a)finishing University b) waiting for their next house to be finished, c) waiting for an opening at the next Army base but, we were out of the country and needed someone to care for our house anyway. Mutually beneficial.

    What is so good about an empty nest? It is GREAT! We get to play together and not worry about anyone else's schedule.

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    edcoyle

    10/27/09 | Report as spam

    Welcome home kids, this is what we voted for!!

    For the last 50-70 years Americans have voted for liberal spending, job destroying and prosperity sucking policies of left leaning politicians. If you actually heard someone from the economic right you would think they were crazy. Is it so crazy to believe that as government gets bigger the private economy gets smaller. How often do you hear that on the nightly news? Should be every night, instead we hear about the latest spending program to fix the current problem. Here's the best one on TV now, Ronald Reagan spent our way out of recession in the 80's, only he did it while trying to cut spending and reduce government. Ronald Reagan cut taxes while increasing, now that's a stimulus program.
    But don't worry Government has your best interest at heart.
    Go Government, and welcome home kids.

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    edcoyle

    10/27/09 | Report as spam

    Welcome home kids, this is what we voted for!!

    For the last 50-70 years Americans have voted for liberal spending, job destroying and prosperity sucking policies of left leaning politicians. If you actually heard someone from the economic right you would think they were crazy. Is it so crazy to believe that as government gets bigger the private economy gets smaller. How often do you hear that on the nightly news? Should be every night, instead we hear about the latest spending program to fix the current problem. Here's the best one on TV now, Ronald Reagan spent our way out of recession in the 80's, only he did it while trying to cut spending and reduce government. Ronald Reagan cut taxes while increasing revenue, now that's a stimulus program.
    But don't worry Government has your best interest at heart.
    Go Government, and welcome home kids.

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    Juffowup

    10/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

    "Ronald Reagan cut taxes while increasing revenue, now that's a stimulus program."

    Yes, currently several conservative groups are funding a secret research program to revive Ronald Reagan from the dead so he can become president for life.

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    leapingliz

    11/06/09 | Report as spam

    RE: How to Kick Your Kid Out of the Nest

    Yes, how do I do it? My son 46 yrs. has never paid for rent . I have thrown him out for being drunk, physical,distructive, and what ever else you could think of. But he's like a bouncing ball, and he shows up at 3, 4, or 5 a.m. dirty and hungry after being gone for 2-3 months. I am divorced and also raising my two grandchildren ages 4 and 11. I have called the police and he just keeps comming back. HELP-HELP

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