You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

By Larry Swedroe | Nov 11, 2009 |

Morgan Stanley was fined $90,000 and ordered to make restitution of more than $40,000 due to charges of abusive trading practices related to corporate and municipal bond trades. This serves as another illustration of some of the dangers of buying bonds through broker-dealers.

According to the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority Inc., Morgan Stanley consented to the findings that it “sold or bought corporate bonds to or from customers and failed to sell or buy the bonds at a price that was fair, taking into account all relevant circumstances.”

Generally speaking, firms can change the price of bonds as they see fit. Unfortunately, the Municipal Securities Rulemaking Board (MSRB) provides almost no guidelines as to a limit on the amount a broker-dealer can mark up or down the price of a bond. The only guidance is what is known as Rule G-18. It requires that brokers trade at prices that are “fair and reasonable in relation to prevailing market conditions.” In Morgan Stanley’s case, two municipal bond transactions were marked up 7.41 percent and 6.98 percent, and one was marked down 22.98 percent.

Given that the makeup of the MSRB member board is five representatives from bank dealers, five representatives from securities firms, and just five representatives from the public, it’s easy to see that any oversight is biased in favor of the industry, not the investor.

Also unfortunate is that the SEC doesn’t require broker-dealers to disclose the amount of markup or markdown charged. The result is that transactions costs in bond trades can be like icebergs, where the largest part is hidden beneath the surface.

When buying bonds, the danger is that because the only required disclosure is the transaction fee (which is an administrative fee, not a commission), most investors assume it’s the only cost they’ll incur. This is definitely not the case. As Morgan Stanley’s actions illustrate, it’s just the tip of the iceberg. Without the assistance of the technology needed to identify markups and markdowns, you can incur large costs without even knowing it.

Markups and markdowns can be very large since there’s little in the way of regulations to prevent abuses. In a May 2002 ruling, SEC administrative law judge Lillian McEwen dismissed fraud charges brought by the SEC and the MSRB against a Los Angeles broker. McEwen concluded: “Markups and markdowns on municipal securities ranging from 1.87 to 5.64 percent were not excessive and did not violate the securities fraud laws.”

Whenever we meet investors for the first time, we check their bond transactions to show them the spread they were charged. Quite often, they’re shocked because they were either led to believe the only fee was the transaction fee or they were told the spread would be 1 percent and it turned out to be much higher than that.

Although brokerage firms are legally allowed to charge undisclosed markups ranging upward of 5 percent, the practice is unfair because it takes advantage of investors who might not be aware that bonds commonly include markups from a broker-dealer. Whether legal or not, fees of this size are certainly not in the interest of the investor, and the failure to disclose them is an indication that broker-dealers would agree.

 
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    MarkWolfinger

    11/11/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    Just one more good example of how dishonest stockbrokers can be.

    The individual has sto 'do it yourself' or take a giant leap of faith. Something's wrong here.



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    MrRosemary

    11/12/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    This highlights the difference between a broker (salesperson) and advisor (fiduciary).

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    MarkWolfinger

    11/13/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    That's the theoretical difference.

    But when the majority of advisors ignore their fiduciary responsibility, how is the disintereted, but trusting investor going to survive.

    As a group I see no evidence that advisors are any more than salespeople.

    It's so easy to ask questions, plug the replies into a computer and spit out a pretty graph (in color) that 'tells' the investor how to allocate his/her capital.

    I trust you do not consider that to be anything resulmbling a fiduciary responisbility. But I'd wager than the majprity of these so-called fiduciaries do just that, or the equivalent.



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    larry swedroe

    11/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    Mark
    I don't know how you make the claim that the majority of advisors ignore their fiduciary responsibility. My firm is a strategic partner (in effect I act as their director of research) with over 100 RIAs all of whom have fiduciary responsibilities and I know they all, without exception, take that responsibility very seriously, as do we. When we buy bonds for clients we shop between broker dealers to get the best price and because we buy/sell close to $2 billion a year, we get extremely good prices---and we don't add any spread onto the price (legally we cannot because we are not a broker-dealer).

    Now most stock brokers provide a suitability standard of care and are not held to the fiduciary standard. And I guess while it is possible there are some RIAs that don't take their role seriously, it is my experience that your statement is far from the truth.

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    MarkWolfinger

    11/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    But your experience is with your firm, which is ethical.

    Do you really believe most advisors are anything other than salespeople? Salespeople who earn commissions. And earning commissions comes first, last and always before the customer's needs.

    I don't see how 'getting the best price' demonstrates being a fiduciary. My claim is that most advisors would just be after the fees for trading the bonds.

    I never suggested that they would not try to get the best possible fill for the customer. Only that they would not be offering the best, most individually designed investment program. They would be more interested in making the sale than in worrying what was purchased. This has nothing to do with trade execution and I fail to see why you mention it. I never suggested the advisors steal from customers. They just want the commissions and then try to get good prices.

    Mark

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    larry swedroe

    11/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    Mark
    First, my firm works with about 115 other firms and has worked with many others over the years. They were all highly ethical and took their fiduciaries duties seriously. So my experience is not limited to just my firm.

    Second, I speak at national conferences and meet with many advisors and have gotten to know many of them over the years, and while I don't always agree with their views (like I don't agree with yours on covered calls and some are active managers) the vast majority have taken their fiduciary duty seriously.

    Third, I don't agree at all on the getting the best price either. Brokers who act as advisors don't get the best price for clients; if you work at a B/D you can do that. If you don't you cannot add a spread on. No one should work with advisors that work on a commission basis as that increases the risks of conflicts of interest. Investors should only work with fee only advisors--who of course don't take commissions of any kind and also have the incentive to get the best execution.

    Fifth, getting the best price is part of being a fiduciary--which requires you to act in the client's best interest. If you are not attempting to get the best price you are not being a fiduciary.

    Finally, it seems to me that you are confusing fiduciary advisors with those who are only held to a suitability standard--as stockbrokers are.

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    MarkWolfinger

    11/15/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    If you make a plan that is based solely on needs of individual client,

    If you make investment sugestions based specifically on the needs of that client,

    If you do not allow a computer to generate the ideas for a desired portfolio,

    If the trade ideas come fom your brain and not from a computer,

    And if the customer UNDERSTANDS and likes what you suggest, then you are a true fiduciary.

    Each of those items must be present. Each of them. I would guess that most customers, close their brans and trust the advisor - sans undertanding.


    Yes, of course fee based. Commission based is dumb.

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    formerlythere

    11/16/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    Mark,

    Your list seems to suggest you have only a feint grasp of what it means to follow a fiduciary standard. Much like your other comments, these seem to suggest a world where only "Mark" knows what is best.

    Frankly, if you know of investment advisors who are not following their fiduciary standard, than perhaps you should take a proactive approach and report these findings. But I don't think that's the case. Rather, I believe that, since certain investment advisors disagree with your perception of best practices, you incorrectly assume they are not performing their due diligence as a fiduciary.

    Of course, you also seem to respond to EVERY SINGLE post on these boards, which also suggests you have a lot of time on your hands. And you know what they say about idle hands, don't you, Mark?

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    MarkWolfinger

    11/17/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    Due diligence is a legal term and I haveno doubt that almot 100% of planners pass that legal test.

    There is also ethical definition,where customer truly comes first.

    Actually, I'm swamped with work and came here to have a discussion. Now ended. Goobbye.

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    formerlythere

    11/17/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    Well, make sure you take your ball with you as you head home to pout about it.

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    mzhuang

    12/03/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    Larry,

    Check out this true story (only Jose is a pseudo-name) ...

    http://investment-fiduciary.com/2009/04/08/staggering-cost-of-conflicts-of-interest/

    When I wrote it, I was only suspicious. Your article informs me that brokers can actually do that legally.

    Michael Zhuang

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    larry swedroe

    12/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    Yes Michael,
    Sad but true and the courts have not helped as I noted in my post.

    Investors should avoid working with advisors who earn commissions/markups or markdowns on investment products they sell. Your example is just another reason to adhere to this rule

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    ObliviousInvestor

    12/11/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    Hi Larry.

    Two questions for you:
    1) As a DIY investor, how can one check these markups or markdowns?
    2) Are there any brokerage firms that tend to minimize these costs?

    In my own portfolio, the bond portion is made up entirely of index funds/ETFs, so I'm rather clueless as to the nitty-gritty of indiivdual bond transactions.

    Thanks,
    Mike

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    larry swedroe

    12/12/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    Hi Mike

    For individual investors doing it on their own I would suggest that you avoid the secondary market. Just by at the auction or initial offering and you avoid the markups. Or stick with funds.

    In the case of my own firm we build individual bond portfolios but because we buy close to $2 billion a year in bonds, we get institutional type pricing for our clients--shopping among about 20 broker dealers-- and because we are not a broker dealer (and because we are fee-only, no commissions) we cannot take markups.

    There are some web sites now that do show municipal bond pricing and Fidelity's screen shows some reasonable pricing on TIPS

    http://fixedincome.fidelity.com/fi/FIIndividualBondsSearch?prodmajor=TREAS&prodminor=TIPS&minmaturity=12/2008&maxmaturity=12/2033&displayFormat=TABLE&sortby=MA

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    ObliviousInvestor

    12/12/09 | Report as spam

    RE: You May Be Paying Hundreds in Hidden Bond Fees

    Got it. Thank you for taking the time to reply. happy

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Larry Swedroe

Larry Swedroe is principal and director of research for The Buckingham Family of Financial Services. He has authored or co-authored seven books, including The Only Guide to a Winning Investment Strategy You'll Ever Need.

Larry Swedroe

Larry Swedroe is a principal and the director of research for Buckingham Asset Management and BAM Advisor Services. He has also worked with Prudential Home Mortgage and Citicorp, totaling nearly 40 years of managing financial risks for major corporations and advising individuals on ways to do the same.

His opinions and comments expressed on this site are his own and may not accurately reflect those of the firm.

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