Jill Schlesinger

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Half-Time Economic Update: Are You Smoking Green Shoots?

By Jill Schlesinger | Jul 6, 2009 |

With half the year behind us and summer vacations beckoning, it’s time to stop, take a breath and assess where we are in the economy and the markets. I would sum it up like this: less bad doesn’t equal good, but it’s better than total melt-down.

After a dismal first quarter, there has been movement away from the edge of disaster. Credit is improving, but still tight; employment is still terrible, but not as bad as it was in January; the housing market remains in the doldrums, though the pace of decline is easing up a tiny bit; global manufacturing figures suggest that we most likely have seen the worst in that sector; and the nation’s banks are out of intensive care, but have taken up residence in the critical care unit.

This is not a rousing endorsement for an economic recovery, but the improving conditions over the past few months has quelled fears of “Great Depression II” and allowed markets to move back from the extreme valuations that often accompany panic and fear states.

Helping matters was the emotional pull of the ever-optimistic human being. Some time in March, it really felt like sophisticated investors and ordinary consumers alike wanted to stop feeling bad. Everyone was so burned out on bad news, that the mere mention of “green shoots” was like a drug to dull the pain.

As someone who has just been through a painful period where prescription narcotics helped take the edge off, let me remind you that without the drugs, the pain is still there. It may be less severe, but you know that it’s there. You also know that the recovery will not be swift. It took a couple of decades for the excesses in the financial system to build to a peak–does anyone truly believe that we will be done in two (albeit painful) years?

Avoiding financial calamity is a good thing and yes, it does appear that the global economy is past the absolute worst point in the cycle, but a self-sustained recovery is not necessarily in the bag. In other words, be careful not to smoke those green shoots.

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    Frank777

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    RE: Half-Time Economic Update: Are You Smoking Green Shoots?

    In my opinion 100% correct assesment .. Everyone is so desperate for good news thath they will grab any straw, but the reality is that this mess is far from over !

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    steveo@...

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    Not as useful an article as I was expecting

    Jill, did you say that employment is not as bad now as it was in January? The unemployment rate has increased substantially, even past the high-end of expectations. When the minimum wage hike kicks in, economist predict another 650,000 jobs will go poof.

    Credit is not coming back to the pre-bust levels for a long time. Banks are lending as much as they used to, but the big funds which supplied most of the incremental lending during the bubble are no longer seeking to make new loans.

    I don't see how anyone can predict that we've hit the bottom for manufacturing activity.

    The stock market itself seems to WANT to go up. I get the sense that there is a lot of scared money sitting on the sidelines afraid of missing the next rally. I would say to relax. There are more negative shocks to come that haven't been priced in. For one thing, tax receipts are down 44% while spending is through the roof. You think we can avoid a tax increase for long?

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    Jill Schlesinger

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    RE: Half-Time Economic Update: Are You Smoking Green Shoots?

    Steveo...sorry, I should have been more specific about the employment numbers. The number of new job losses is tapering off, but you are correct that the unemployment rate will continue to rise. I think we agree about credit: it's better, but still not at pre-bust levels. Most global manufacturing numbers have shown progress, so I think the bottoming process has begun, although it could continue for a while.

    Finally, while I agree that there is a likelihood of future tax increases, this would support my argument that the recovery will be slow going...

    Thanks for your comments!

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    DataDude1

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    RE: Half-Time Economic Update: Are You Smoking Green Shoots?

    Okay, I have to be the optimist here, because there sure are enough pessimists. Prudence is critical, but I believe we will be moving out of the recession gulch before too long. Sure life will not be as robust it was during the bubble, but won't be the Great Depression sequel either.

    The leading indicators from ECRI, see link below, are showing a move out of the red.

    http://www.businesscycle.com/

    Greg "The Optimist" Timpany

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    ArtM72

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    RE: Half-Time Economic Update: Are You Smoking Green Shoots?

    Jill -

    Thank you for your reasoned and temperate article.

    I stumbled upon the Fed's website the other day and found debt growth for various economic sectors at http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/Current/z1r-2.pdf. If borrowing capacity is in any way related to debt levels money is likely to be quite a bit tighter in the next decade than it was in the past.

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    clarkm

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    RE: Half-Time Economic Update: Are You Smoking Green Shoots?

    I don't think the decline is over, not by a long shot. I'm not being pessimistic just realistic. And we need it to stay this way for a while longer. Unfortunately humans have relatively short memories, particularly when it comes to pain. If the recovery is in fact in progress then I fear we will quickly fall back into the bad habits that got us where we are today. In fact I have heard a number of "experts" (talking heads) exress opinions regarding recovery tactics that actually mirror the bad practices that lead to all our problems. I'm tired of hearing about the "locked up" credit markets. From what I've seen, those folks/companies that have shown the ability to pay their bills are still able to get credit. We needed a good kick in the pants (I think the finance weanies call it a market correction) and I don't believe the message has been completely received.

    The tab is coming due soon, and I have to agree with steveo that there is more downside on the way. Relax if you can and have done the right things in your life that allow you to do so. But if you're one of the folks that didn't, then I hope your ready for another slapdown.

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    clarkm

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    RE: Half-Time Economic Update: Are You Smoking Green Shoots?

    Oh yeah, don't bogart that thing. Pass it around.

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    Jill Schlesinger

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    RE: Half-Time Economic Update: Are You Smoking Green Shoots?

    I like the idea of learning lessons and changing our behavior. None of us wants to live in an economy where credit-induced fantasy trumps reality. I'm hopeful that we will emerge stronger AND smarter.

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Jill Schlesinger

Jill Schlesinger is the Editor-at-Large for CBS MoneyWatch.com. Prior to the launch of MoneyWatch, she was the Chief Investment Officer for an independent investment advisory firm. In her infancy, she was an options trader on the Commodities Exchange of New York.

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