6 Myths About Gas Mileage

The summer driving season is at hand, and gasoline prices are suddenly back on your mind. No wonder. Since last December gas has risen more than 60 percent, to a national average of $2.65 for a gallon of self-serve regular, according to the Automobile Association of America.

While that’s a far cry from last spring’s spike to more than $4 per gallon, it’s incentive enough to focus your mind on all the things you need to do to save money on gas. The only problem is that much of what you know to be true about boosting mileage is a myth. Here we debunk six of the most widely believed mileage misconceptions; this Independence Day weekend, it’s time to start really saving on fuel costs.

1. If your owner’s manual says “premium fuel recommended,” you’ll ruin your car by filling it up with regular.

Reality: Unless you’re driving in the Indy 500, using regular gas in a car that says premium fuel is merely “recommended” is perfectly fine. And doing so will save you 25 cents per gallon.

“Unless you have a job that requires regular sessions on a racetrack, there is no legitimate need to ever put premium fuel in your vehicle,” says Susan Winlaw, co-author of the book, Car Advice for Women (and Smart Men). Using regular gas could cost you a few horsepower when you’re driving at higher speeds, but chances are you won’t notice the difference, and it definitely won’t hurt your car. Your engine’s fuel-management system is perfectly prepared to handle lower-octane fuel, says Winlaw.

On the other hand, switching to regular in a car for which premium fuel is “required,” as it is for a few high-performance luxury rides, could cause noticeable knocking. And over time, that could lead to faster engine wear.

Those cases aside, just how much could switching to regular gas save you this weekend? According to the AAA’s Daily Fuel Gauge Report, the national average price per gallon recently was $2.68 for regular gas, versus $2.94 for premium. A longish road trip could account for four fill-ups of about 20 gallons each, meaning you’d save almost $21 by using regular gas over premium.

2. In the summer, you should only buy gas at night or early in the morning when the gas is cold. Because cold gas is more dense, you’ll get more fuel for your money.

Reality: Buying cold gas is a lot harder than it sounds, and the potential savings are scarcely worth it.

Consumer Reports thoroughly tested this theory using their own underground tank, similar to those used by gas stations. They found that it’s surprisingly hard to accurately predict whether a given tankful of gas will be cold or warm. For starters, if gas was a given temperature when it was delivered from the tanker truck, it tended to stay that temperature for a while, even after it had been transferred. Not only that, but the first gas to be pumped in a given day could be warm because a certain amount of gas collects in the aboveground pump. So even if you manage to be the first customer of the day, you might still be buying warm gas.

After all that, even if you’re successful in buying cold gas, the difference in density is so slight — perhaps a maximum of 1 percent per fill-up, according to Consumer Reports —that the savings are marginal. “It’s an urban myth” that you should always buy gas at night or early in the day, says Gabriel Shenhar, senior auto test engineer for Consumer Reports.

3. Shopping around for cheaper gas is seldom worth the extra fuel you burn up trying to find it.

Reality: It’s easy to find where the cheapest gas stations are online, and crossing state lines when you can saves plenty of money.

The AAA’s TripTik Travel Planner not only gives you point-to-point driving directions, but also allows you to highlight gas stations along your route, including frequently updated gas prices for each location. You’ll have to zoom in to a pretty detailed view of your route, but the tool allows you to plan where to stop for gas ahead of time instead of roaming around looking for good prices. You don’t even have to be an AAA member to use the feature.

And especially on an interstate road trip, planning ahead can save you a significant amount of money because of different state taxes on gas. Some states with the lowest average cost per gallon are next door to some of the highest-cost states, such as New Jersey and New York. The recent New Jersey average price per gallon was $2.56 for regular versus $2.85 in New York, according to the AAA. If you’re already planning to cross the George Washington Bridge, then, you should plan to buy gas on the New Jersey side, where a full tank will cost almost $6 less, which will almost help pay the $8 toll for the bridge.

4. For the best gas mileage, you should keep it below 55 miles per hour.

Reality: Fuel efficiency doesn’t really start to drop until you reach speeds higher than 60. And how smoothly you drive makes much more of a difference on gas mileage than how fast.

According to the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE), most cars’ fuel efficiency peaks at speeds from 35 to 60 miles per hour. After 60, though, fuel efficiency drops significantly; the DOE says that every 5 miles per hour you drive above 60 is like paying an additional 24 cents per gallon for gas. That’s because at higher speeds your car encounters more wind resistance and the tires encounter more rolling resistance.

Once you get your car going, though, it takes remarkably little energy to keep it going, even at 60 mph, according to Terry Penney, technology manager for advanced vehicles for the DOE’s National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, Colo. But getting it rolling burns up a lot of gas, which is why you should listen to your old driver’s-ed teacher and drive as if there’s an egg between your foot and the gas pedal. The DOE estimates that constantly accelerating and decelerating can cut your mileage by as much as 33 percent. The fact is, easing up on jackrabbit starts and Indy-500-style highway maneuvers will save you more money than puttering along at 55.

5. A car with manual transmission will always get better mileage than one with an automatic.

Reality: Newer automatic transmissions can get the same highway mileage as a manual transmission (or even slightly better).

Following previous oil embargoes, there was a rush on cars with manual transmissions because they got better mileage than automatics. But that’s less true today, especially at highway speeds, says Gabriel Shenhar, senior auto test engineer for Consumer Reports. Older three-speed automatics had to work a lot harder at highway speeds than today’s four- or five-speed automatics. And the new automatics produced in the last few years have an “overdrive” top gear that reduces engine rpm’s at higher speeds.

In city driving or mixed city-highway driving, a manual still tends to get better mileage, Shenhar says. But on the highway and long driving trips in particular, your automatic may get as good or even slightly better mileage than the manual. The 2009 Chevrolet Aveo, for instance, gets an EPA-estimated 34 miles per gallon highway. And most versions of the sporty 2009 Mazda3 get 29 miles per gallon on the highway, manual or automatic.

6. To save gas, open the car’s windows and shut off the air conditioning.

Reality: At higher speeds, leaving the windows open increases wind resistance so much that you probably wipe out any gain from shutting off the AC.

Air conditioning does burn up gas, which is why Ford recommends that you at least turn down the AC and use the “vent” settings on your climate control as much as possible. According to Ford’s website, Driving Skills for Life, reducing AC usage when the temperature is above 80 degrees can save up to 10 to 15 percent on fuel.

But at speeds above 50 miles per hour, lowering the windows increases wind resistance so much that you’re better off closing them and putting on the AC at a moderate temperature. It’s also good to remember that once a car is cool inside, it takes a lot less energy to keep it cool. Result: Some of the best AC-related mileage boosting you can do occurs when the car’s not moving. That is, when it’s hot, park in the shade.

 
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    Dryad

    07/02/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    Certain cars have a sensor that records if you are NOT using premium gas. They check this memory whenever you bring it in for service. If you have a problem, the manufacturer may void the warranty. Check with a "friendly" service rep before you buy such a car.

    In most cars, at highway speeds the timing is retarded, or there is a benign "knock sensor" so it does not make a difference if you run regular or premium. The elctronic automatically compensate.

    However, you may get better overall gas mileage running premium.

    Use Techron every month before you fill up to enhance your mileage and keep your intake and valves clean. It does work - it is the only additive that does.

    It also helps make up for the ethanol content as far as gas mileage goes.

    I don't work for Chevron.

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    john3347@...

    07/02/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    Your first point is only partially true. Your figures do not take into account the reduced fuel mileage caused by the inefficient operation of the engine when the electronics (knock sensor and related software) retard the ignition. I have seen the preliminary results of some "quick" tests that confirm that fuel mileage is reduced when "regular grade" gasoline is used in an engine for which premium fuel is recommended. I have not seen the results from, or know of any, in-depth testing to quantify exactly how much more fuel is burned when using lower than recommended octane fuel resulting in operation at retarded spark advance settings. At any rate, the reduced cost for sub-standard octane fuel would be partially offset by the increased fuel consumption from inefficient operation. Therefore the actual savings would be measurably less than the per gallon pump price. (it would take some long term, careful measurements to determine the exact mileage difference, then some arithmetic to figure just how much savings there actually is) Another point to consider when deciding whether to use a lower than recommended octane fuel is that an engine running in a "spark retarded mode" just feels more sluggish and less responsive than when using recommended fuel.

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    jagad5

    07/06/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    On number 4, each vehicle is definitely different and each owner should check his/her mileage at different speeds. My Class C motor home gets 9 mpg at 55 and 7 mpg at 65, so I drive it slower, on the rare occasion when I actually drive it.

    My minivan gets 21 in the city and 24 or 25 on the highway, no matter what speed I drive.

    But my Buick Regal, Pontiac Grand Am and Saturn LS all get better mileage at higher speeds, measured over long highway stretches, multiple times. My Buick got 25 mpg at 55. Mileage increased about 1 mpg for every 2 mph faster I drove, topping out at about 33 mpg. Driving faster got me there cheaper and faster.

    The notion that all cars get better mileage when you slow down is just plain wrong.

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    LdrshpMgmtGuru

    07/06/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    #4 leads me to believe that I WAS saving gas, as I suspected, by using cruise control on my road trip this weekend. Am I correct in that assumption?

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    jerang@...

    07/06/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    This is a definite eye opener, I actually thought #1 and #4 were true.

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    UserMan05

    07/06/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    Awesome article, this is information my son could use. For number 4, doesn't the regular gas ruin the car engine if premium gas is recommended?

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    dandybydo

    07/07/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    Short trips in hot weather, where your car is "heat soaked" and working overtime to cool the cabin, produce lousy fuel economy. Try rolling down the windows and driving a short distance to vent cabin heat before you crank up the AC. In the winter (west coast readers stop here), short trips in a "cold soaked" vehicle, when a cold engine is working to heat a cold car, are similarly fuel inefficient. When fuel prices reached $4/gallon, my family worked to combine errands into one trip, gave up on driving the kids to school (which cost us a half-hour/day of sleep), and drove much more conservatively. If as a nation we want to reduce fuel consumption, we need $4/gallon gas. Otherwise, more fuel efficiency only reduces the cost of driving more and more agressively, leading to increased miles traveled and fuel consumed. Check the history of CAFE on this one. As Bob Lutz once said, it's like treating America's obesity problem by only making small-size clothes!!

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    jeremydorsey

    07/07/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    If your car "requires" you to run premium you are better off to continue to run the slightly more expensive fuel. Overall, you are not going to be saving that much money by running the cheaper fuel. It has been shown, maybe not with all out testing and reports, that running the regular fuel when premium is required can lead to serious engine wear and even cause enough damage to completely ruin the engine.

    Sometimes you must believe the engineers of these cars and they have put hours upon hours into researching what is best for the engine and it's efficiency. They program the computers in the cars to act a certain way, but sometimes the computer cannot correct itself enough when using improper fuel.

    That's not to say that there aren't some things that we can do differently (drive and accelerate slower, not run the A/C as hard, etc.) but giving up a required fuel and possibly ruining the engine would be as silly as driving the car with flat tires.

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    IMLaughlin

    07/23/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    My vehicle recommended for 91 octane does get more miles from premium than E-10, especially in hot weather and in-town driving. E-10 evaporates faster than gasoline. The extra 3 miles/gallon sometimes offsets the price differences, sometimes not. However, when my brand changed from 91 octane premium to E-10-enhanced 91 octane "premium" the gas mileage narrowed.
    I've always driven the speed limit plus 4 when conditions permit. What a revelation when I had the time and inclination to drive each of my vehicles at 60 MPH or slower on the highway, for distances expending a full tank. Mileage jumped 10 MPG and more! My gas guzzlers turned green. Who knew?

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    ZaiberVaireus

    07/25/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    I Must say that whoever wrote this is misinforming so many
    people. Only 4 and 5 are correct.

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    maoszman804

    08/12/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    Do you know how many people are going to be beating each for the shady spot?

    Holy cow! What have you people done?

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    ZaiberVaireus

    08/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    Please people, if your car asks for Premium fuel, give it premium
    fuel. The reason you give it higher octanage fuel is because of
    the compression ratio in your motor, and failing to give it
    enough octanage will cause detonation, also known as engine
    knock, which WILL damage your engine.

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    halp0015

    08/30/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    There is a tradeoff between aerodynamics or your car, the vehicle weight, engine rpms required to drive at speed, the speed you are driving at...
    **In plain terms there is a threshold for each car where driving faster increases mileage. There is a simple mathematical equation that relates weight, aerodynamic drag, and speed and it isn't linear.
    This article points out that it is 'approximately' at 60mph for a collective average of many vehicles (likely passenager cars, light SUV's, crossovers). Therefore don't think driving 80mph in your Chevy Silverado or Ford Explorer will be increasing your mileage...the vehicle isn't aerodynamic, it weighs a lot...etc.

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    old77

    09/07/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    #1 my carb fed V8 needs the plus or better or it will drop 4mpg w/ E-10. It now gets 13mpg when tuned. It was not aged for CFC, are older than 84 cars more fuel effencent than 84 to 09? The other points are fuel underground should be at 65-70 degrees and will heat to ambient in about 2hrs so if you are not hitting the road soon the expending fuel may leak if you over filled the tank capacity. Manuals do help more than stated because the ave person does not drive 50+ miles to and from work and you can not leave your drivaway or your work parkinglot ay 55-60 mph so you have to shift to build speed and the automatic usually refs higher between shifts.

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    peck23462

    11/03/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    my favorite Gas Mileage improvement , over inflating tires,was not addresses. Can't say I blame you.

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    zinfool

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    I am a gas mileage champ. so I can say that several of your
    myths are just that, myths. Several are questionable, for example I drove a 2001 Buick V8 with an automatic transmission, and got over 31 MPG in combined conditions of
    country roads, some freeway, some controlled low speed driving, re: 40 MPH. I took some time to get the feel for the car because it shifted in the most awkward times and speeds.
    But constant was best, 55-60 was the best range, a light foot, is good, and adjusting for changes in road slope was imperative to have it not shift back and forth. The ideal RPM
    for mileage in that car, 1650. I also drove our V6 CTS Cadillac
    round trip from Paso Robles, Ca to Salt Lake city (1937 miles)
    and got 29.9 MPG. 2200 RPM is the sweet spot in that car, it
    is also an automatic, and shifted in poor places.

    The new five and six speed auto do well if gotten to speed, and if they can be held in their highest gear, which gets me to the one area where a manual transmission will do better. They don't shift until the driver decides it is necessary.

    The rules for best gas mileage; 1. the lowest final drive ratio the manufacturer builds. 2. Proper air inflation for tires, about
    25-30% above recommended. This lower resistance and gives
    slightly better tire wear. Over 30% and you flatten the middle
    of the tire. 3. foot control, equals steady as you go, and look for the spot the car tends to settle in, that is usually the highest efficiency point. The lowest RPM for a given speed that does not lug the engine, will yield the highest mileage, nine out of ten times. On cool gas in the morning, I got only 2 miles per 100 miles traveled at best. On raising tire
    pressure, steering response is greatly enhanced, so test it first "before" driving on the road..... Safe and fuel efficient driving to you all.....

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    caleeakins

    11/18/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    RE: "In the summer, you should only buy gas at night or early in the morning..."

    One thing to point out, it is better for the environment, as fueling up on a hot day creates more ozone.

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    Kadgarth

    12/04/09 | Report as spam

    Cruise Control

    Something that wasn't mentioned was cruise control.

    On a load straight road (think middle of farmersville USA)
    cruise control does wonders to keep your MPG nice and high.

    However, on a road with lots of hills, cruise can control can
    really hurt you. Instead of dropping from 55 to 50 when going
    up a hill (then presumably getting the speed back when you
    go down it) your cruise control will bring your car up to 2800
    RPMs to make sure you stay at 55 MPH. Even worse, on the
    other side of the hill it will downshift and not let you use
    gravity to your advantage.

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    deanplmr

    12/20/09 | Report as spam

    Fuel Economy: Manual vs Automatic Transmission...

    Nearly all of today's modern passenger vehicles equipped with automatic transmissions have a nice little feature called a "Locking Torque Converter". What this means is, when your vehicle settles into a cruise condition (defined as a steady power demand from the engine), the ECM (Engine Control Module) tells the transmission to lock the torque converter. Sometimes you can even feel this happening because it feels like your vehicle is shifting into even a lower gear. What this does is remove the energy losses from the Torque Converter. A Torque Converter is really just a liquid filled slip-clutch designed to multiply torque during acceleration. This is why you can stop at a light and not take the car out of gear - the converter clutch is slipping 100 percent until you begin moving again. By locking the Converter, the input shaft is actually locked to the output shaft. Effectively, the converter is then taken out of the torque path and thus it's fluid slip losses are totally eliminated. The only remaining losses in the system are from the rotating gear set and the final differential that transfers rotational energy 90 degrees for driving the axles and the drive wheels. (Note that for vehicles equipped with transverse-mounted engines, this is not an issue - the power shafts are already rotating at a suitable direction to be applied directly to the axles. So, when the converter is locked, your mileage is nearly the same or even a little better than a manual transmission. In addition, manual transmissions use a thick gooey 80 to 90 weight gear lube, whereas, automatics use special automatic transmission fluid, which is about as thick as light vegetable oil. The gears in a transmission have to turn in a bath of oil, so the thinner the oil, the less fluid drag there is, and thus, the smaller are the losses in the system. So, all things being equal, an automatic transmission once locked will usually deliver the same or better fuel economy than a manual. I drive a FORD Excursion V10 - large and heavy. Considering it's weight, it actually delivers better fuel economy on the freeway (converter is locked) than my old manual shift Chevy station wagon did! Of course there are other factors involved, but basic physics are at work here and anyone can easily understand these concepts once explained to them. These days, I can see no real reason to have a manual transmission over an automatic unless you have to continually shift while driving such as running a mail delivery truck. And taxis are usually all automatics even though they are constantly starting and stopping in city traffic along their routes. So are city transit busses. If there was any real economy to having a manual transmission, taxis, busses and other start-stop vehicles would all be equipped with manual transmissions. But they are not.
    -Dean Palmer, Engineer

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    sagvr4

    12/26/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    man i hate people regurgitating that your car doesnt need
    premium, especially here in colorado. they say with the
    altitude and the air being so less dense you really dont need
    it. guess my knock monitor and tuning software are liars!

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    IMLaughlin

    12/27/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    The engineer doth compare dinosaurs to
    dinosaurs when rationalizing about his
    Excursion V10 to "Chevy station wagon"
    of unknown year. Notice he doesn't
    divulge gas milages. I've owned similar
    vehicles, one with 4 speed manual and
    current with 4 speed (aka overdrive)
    automatic. I definitely got better milage
    with the manual, even though I "make
    time." If I were a conservation-minded
    driver I could get even better milage with
    the manual over an automatic. Now, if you
    compare only interstate, all day driving at
    65-75 mph, then the manual and
    automatic should be about equal if they
    have similar high gear ratios.

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    zinfool

    12/31/09 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    The Fast, The Slow, and The Less ZinFuelish

    IMLaughlin, you hit the most important fuel economy point, those gear ratios on final drive. There is also a very fine line on tire size, too small and the engine revs too high (for good mileage), and too big and it lugs also hurting mileage. But on the rear end ratio, the lower the number, the fewer RPM's the motor turns to each revolution of the wheel. So a 3:! ratio gets you 25% fewer engine revolutions at the same speed, all things being equal. Then if you can balance wheel size to get another 10% fewer RPM's and not lug you could take a 30 MPG car and theoretically get 39-40 MPG, with no other changes. We did it all the time. Did I mention air pressure? well I did earlier** because to make a race car responsive, you have to run road resistance to get the car from stage one of being in a tract, to a groove to smooth. That is done with speed, but tire pressure up by 20-50% was used to make that process less jerky, and immensely more responsive with less turning effort. So the end product would be 55 MPG runs.

    Oh, yes, we had carburetors you could adjust, timing you could advance or retard, bolt on high energy ignition, modified exhaust systems, etc.... All lost now to environmental pressures, some would say extremes. Bumper were lightened or remade for hill climbs as well as anything else that could be unbolted and replaced with a lighter version to lighten the cars weight....

    But, I grew up in an era where you had three motor choices, two or three trans- mission choices, and several rear ratios to choose from; then replacement parts were available to go fast, go economic, somewhat do both. One Pontiac had a two speed rear differential, that with a four speed, eight choices of drive gears, only five (max) available at a time. It was a time where car lovers were really passionate about their cars, we were allowed and encouraged to test the limits. We went fast and we ran as long as we could on a gallon of gasoline, both were fun, and valuable, and I-we somehow survived it all....all three of us came the distance so far, 1944-..

    Car manufacturers "HAD" forgotten the fun, the passion, the guts to be different than the next box going down the road... Those new electric cars I've seen, I want to own, 0-100 faster than most gasoline engined car could think about! Bet I could really make one scream.......VVVVOOOOMMMM!!!:) wheerrrree??? zzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!

    zinfool

    **RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage
    I am a gas mileage champ. so I can say that several of your
    myths are just that, myths. Several are questionable, for example I drove a 2001 Buick V8 with an automatic transmission, and got over 31 MPG in combined conditions of country roads, some freeway, some controlled low speed driving, re: 40 MPH. I took some time to get the feel for the car because it shifted in the most awkward times and speeds. But constant was best, 55-60 was the best range, a light foot, is good, and adjusting for changes in road slope was imperative to have it not shift back and forth. The ideal RPM for mileage in that car, 1650. I also drove our V6 CTS Cadillac round trip from Paso Robles, Ca to Salt Lake city (1937 miles)
    and got 29.9 MPG. 2200 RPM is the sweet spot in that car, it is also an automatic, and shifted in poor places.

    The new five and six speed auto do well if gotten to speed, and if they can be held in their highest gear, which gets me to the one area where a manual transmission will do better. They don't shift until the driver decides it is necessary.

    The rules for best gas mileage; 1. the lowest final drive ratio the manufacturer builds. 2. Proper air inflation for tires, about
    25-30% above recommended. This lower resistance and gives
    slightly better tire wear. Over 30% and you flatten the middle
    of the tire. 3. foot control, equals steady as you go, and look for the spot the car tends to settle in, that is usually the highest efficiency point. The lowest RPM for a given speed that does not lug the engine, will yield the highest mileage, nine out of ten times. On cool gas in the morning, I got only 2 miles per 100 miles traveled at best. On raising tire pressure, steering response is greatly enhanced, so test it first "before" driving on the road..... Safe and fuel efficient driving to you all.....It's part of a race car setup.

    Warning: Some forward looking and rearward looking memories maybe larger in memory than in truth, such is life....you'd have to be a fool not to believe that! The medicine man calls....

    zinfool

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    Maverickxeo

    01/10/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    Most modern cars do benefit from premium fuel... the cost
    per gallon is negated by the fact that you can get slightly
    more fuel economy due to the computer advancing the timing
    a bit to account for the higher octane. You get more power,
    and more economy, for a slightly higher price.

    Older vehicles (OBI0) do not do this.

    On the same note, if I were to put regular into my car, Id
    have no engine left. Some cars NEED premium.

    Im sorry, but that woman has NOT done her research at all.
    She even says a little knocking on the highway is fine. IT IS
    NOT if you care about the vehicle and dont want to rebuild
    the engine! You lose fuel economy for using too low of an
    octane among other things.

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    zinfool

    01/11/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    Engine knock! This is a compression ratio/supercharger issue.
    It can also occur at higher altitudes. On a typical gasoline engine, the compression ratio is less than 10 to 1. At 10:1, the pressure within the cylinder to lower than the pressure needed to detonate (dieseling, or knocking) prior to the spark from the plug. A supercharger adds more air/fuel to the
    cylinder than just atmospheric pressure, so pressures within the cylinder are higher than a similar engine without super-charging. (I have to add highway knock to the three above!)

    What happens within the engine at altitude, or at highway Cruise speeds that causes knocking is this. When you want to increase your speed you press the accelerator pedal, and more fuel goes to the cylinder, but the same amount of air also goes to the cylinder, so there are more volatile liquids becoming a gas within the cylinder, and the pressure exceeds the detonating pressure of the fuel, knock/dieseling!
    When the engine increases RPMs, knock goes away, as fuel to air becomes normal again. At altitude, you may have to shift gears to fix the temporary problem. A temporary knock on the highway does not damage your cars engine, nor does it mean you need engine servicing or higher octane fuel. A constant knock/dieseling see your mechanic, and or, try a higher octane fuel.

    Some cars have compression ratios that "NEED" Premium fuel, or they have superchargers or ignition systems that require it to have higher octane fuels. A four to ten percent
    premium for fuel that makes you "feel" the car is running better, is a small price to pay! It may even run better, too!
    Will you get better mileage to cost? No! The energy of one gallon of gasoline is the same, plus or minus a 2% to 4% change in a ratio that raises detonation point, and a few molecules in the fuel mixture.....2% costs 4%, and 4% costs 10%! For some, smooth sailing, priceless!

    zinfool

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    st092156

    01/15/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    what the hell is this gas is better at night as for temp- wise or in the morning,, crap do you not know gas stays at a temp of around fifty five "f" no matter if it is in your gas tank the ground tank or a can sitting in the sun , one reason it has such a low flash point.

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    masterlu

    01/22/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    You people need to whine less about your gas prices. I live in
    Scandinavia, and what you consider "extremely high" gas
    prices are considered "very affordable" around here. I'm not
    joking. Last year the prices topped out at 1.6 euros per liter,
    which equates to about $8.5 per gallon. When newspapers
    poll people on what they think a "suitable" (=cheap) price of
    fuel would be, they commonly cite the equivalent of $3 per
    gallon. Yes, the standard of living over here is higher, but
    even taking that into account I still think we are paying silly
    money for gasoline.

    On the other hand, we don't have anything under E95
    available (unless you go over the border to Russia, where
    they apparently use the same stuff you guys do), which in
    part could explain the difference in average prices. Still, stop
    complaining!

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    lightfoot

    01/23/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    I drive a 1990 Pontiac 6000, 6cyl, 3.1L car which has an overdrive. After having the car tuned up (new premium plugs and wires, oil change, etc), and doing the obvious (making sure tire pressure is correct, etc), I was able to get 55mpg on a 35 hour drive from Toronto,ON to Regina,SK. I had the cruise control set at the speed limit which was 90 km/h for the majority of the trip. I increased my speed to 100 km/h when the speed limit changed which also coincided with a decidely bad change in weather conditions (snow, wind) and my mileage was reduced to 44 mpg. My mileage usually in that car on the highway was 35 mpg on the highway which is what I got when I drove to Toronto from Regina. Needless to say, I was absolutely ecstatic with the increase in mileage. I had the opportunity of checking the mileage on 5 tanks of gas (and I also did an odemeter check when the opportunity presented itself) so I know my calculations were correct.

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    zinfool

    01/24/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    Lightfoot, that's great mileage! You most likely have the
    440-T4/4T60 transmission with a final drive ratio of 2.73.
    It makes for a great mileage car, if driven correctly, which
    you appear to have mastered.

    Most current cars have gear ratios in the mid to high 3's.
    That cuts potential mileage by a third right out of the gate.
    That plus all the extra weight!! And engine sizes have grown
    and horsepower upped too....all yields lower mileage. You have a great car to drive.

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    zinfool

    01/25/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    Some fuel tips from my local gasoline/fuel distributor. Summer
    blend will give the best mileage, fewest additives for foul weather, temperature and moisture. California has three blends, summer, mild winter and mountain winters. In middle
    of the country, four blends, depending on temps and snow or rain amounts, as well as humidity, east coast has four blends but it has more to do with humidity, so they are slightly different than the others.

    Hot and dry air equals the lowest mileage, where as cool and
    moist air yields the best mileage. Mid-country, summer blend, is the most fuel efficient blend. 4000 to 8000 foot elevation yields the best mileage. Above 8000 to little air, below 4000 too much. His explanations!! (newer cars may adjust for this)

    My experience at altitude is this, Denver, Co. 5000' with the climb to 8000' and then a rather high speed run to Utah in a 72' 914 Porsche, not concerned with gas mileage, and still got 47 miles per gallon. (normal was 35-38), So he has a point about altitude pushing up fuel economy. I normally drive between 1100' and sea level (20')....

    We don't get a choice about which blend we get, but we may
    notice the differences during the year.

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    SSDI

    01/29/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    I've vsisted a couple of sites and they mostly say that certain cars with manual transmissions and different fluids like synthetic make a difference. Even the EPA sites give manual transmissions higher MPG.

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    SSDI

    01/29/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    Tire inflation or higher inflation has it's obvious limits, depending on many factors. The tire's rating-when new, the car/tire/road conditions and temperature/expansion etc.

    I had a problem with a Buick Regal I bought that had peeling chrome rims and the tire pressure was always an issue. For a short while, I had noticed around 1 or 2 mpg average increase on my systems monitor when the tires were at a higher pressure.
    I eventually and painfully switched to new and likely heavier 16 inch steel rims. One site mentioned buying smooth moon cap wheel covers for better highway MPG. ( no thanks)

    Odd how some MPG minded people are adding rear fender skirts that look like the Honda Insight or um, Incite. ( or road turtle)

    Insane Hypermiling should be outlawed along with any other road distractions like cell phones and now text messaging. And I thought just a car load of kids and teenagers was bad enough.

    It sorta reminds me of the movie WALL-E.

    As for the weight in the gas tank, I do wonder how some cars will apparently hold around the same mpg average, regardless of a full or half full tank. It would be an interesting test. But with gas prices as they are constantly changing, I gamble buying it or not and filling it up. It's wintertime and I prefer it at 3/4 full and refill at no less than 1/4. I think my tank is only 14 gallons anyway.

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    zinfool

    01/30/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    Tire pressure, the max rating is on the tire! Manufacturer wants the lower pressures for two reasons, one, a softer ride, and second, allows for slight misalignment with no physical signs of vibration.

    As for weight of the fuel, a mid-sized car at 3200-3600 pounds, may have a 10-16 gallon tank. At just under 8 lbs. per gallon, it's only 80-108 lbs. total, a very slight difference to mileage.

    As for hypermiling, well?, go for good economy driving, it's a matter of habit, not constant attention to each bump in the road. Common sense, it seems to be a lost art form.

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    DWalker88001

    02/03/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    dandybydo: "In the winter (west coast readers stop here), short trips in a "cold soaked" vehicle, when a cold engine is working to heat a cold car, are similarly fuel inefficient."

    Um, heating a car's inside and cooling the inside use vastly different mechanisms. Heating the cabin uses heat generated by the engine which would be vented (through the radiator) to the outdoors if the car's heater is not on. (The heat exchanger that's used in the heating system is a small radiator.) The engine does not have to work extra to produce the heat, although the fans that blow the heat through the cabin use a little energy.

    The air conditioner compressor, on the other hand, uses a lot of energy to compress the coolant. Turning on the A/C compressor is what saps the gas mileage since the compressor is "hard to turn". The blower motor that blows the cool air through the cabin is not the important issue with A/C and gas mileage.

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    DWalker88001

    02/03/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    "gas stays at a temp of around fifty five "f" no matter if it is in your gas tank the ground tank or a can sitting in the sun".

    Um, no it doesn't.

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    zinfool

    02/09/10 | Report as spam

    RE: 6 Myths About Gas Mileage

    DWalker88001, I don't think Dandybydo is talking about heating the insides of his car. Cold soaked is 400 pounds of
    metal and several gallons of fluids at 0 deg. F or lower. As you said, fuel does not stay at 55 deg. F, so it takes a large amount of energy to get the fuel to vapor point, and it take allot of energy to heat the block to vapor point, and there is no heat to cause proper expansion of the fuel in the combustion chamber prior to detonation. So the engine has very little umph: umph is a technical term for no get up and go. The result is very poor gas mileage on short trips. By the time the water temp is 200 deg. F, the oil is fluid, the fuel/air preheat is working properly, and the cabin of the car 40 deg. F, it's time to turn off the motor. California driver who spent two years in Montana. Batteries freeze at -27 deg. F too by the way!!!

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