5 Economic Scenarios to Keep You Up at Night

This story was updated on Nov. 9, 2009.

While the recession may be over, the U.S. economy still doesn’t seem to be out of the woods. The stock market continues to be volatile, lender CIT Group recently filed for the nation's fifth-largest bankruptcy, and unemployment remains stubbornly high.

So could this nascent recovery still be blown off course? We asked five money managers and financial gurus to share their worst-case scenarios for the market and the economy. From runaway inflation to sky-high deficits that force the government to slash Social Security and Medicare, we found five fears that still keep the experts up at night.

Not to suggest that these scary scenarios ought to make you hit the panic button. Just consider it a stress test for your portfolio: Are you diversified enough to provide protection if the market goes south, or are you betting the farm on a best-case scenario? Inflation is a recurring theme in our experts’ nightmares; you can hedge that risk by owning inflation-protected securities and boosting your exposure to international markets. That way, you should be able to get a decent night’s sleep no matter what happens.

1. Runaway Inflation

“I don’t think we’ll have a crash like the last one, but the risk that we will have a significant bear market is very real. There could be several catalysts. For one, European banks are undercapitalized and overleveraged — far more overleveraged than U.S. banks. So the likelihood of a major European bank failing in the next two to four years is significant. Also, the likelihood of the commercial real estate sector in the U.S. suffering a significant wave of foreclosures is high. A third risk is any sort of geopolitical shock, such as another terrorist attack or a small war starting in another country. The fourth — and arguably the biggest — potential catalyst is that our aggregated indebtedness as a nation has gotten totally out of hand. Rampant inflation is a serious risk if we keep spending $1 trillion to $2 trillion more than our tax revenues.”

Robert D. Arnott
Chairman, Research Affiliates

2. Stagflation

“The most likely nightmare scenario is inflation, and even possibly stagflation. Prices are headed up for raw materials like oil, copper, grains, cement, nickel, and iron ore — all the things necessary to grease the wheels of an economy. That could put a real damper on the market’s recovery. Historically, commodity prices have remained quiescent during the initial period of an economic upturn. This is the first time in 40 years we’ve seen an immediate rise in commodity prices as the economy is just starting to come out of a recession. That price increase will start to be a drain on the consumer. And if we can’t get employment restarted in this environment, you end up with stagflation.”

Jerry Jordan
President, Hellman, Jordan Management

3. Crippling Government Debt

“The U.S. government has $65 trillion in future promises on its books. I see three potential ways to manage those obligations, and none of them are pleasant. One would be to manage our economy to a sufficient growth rate with moderate inflation to pay off all those obligations. That would require a reversal in policy from large deficits to large surpluses through much higher taxes and a significant contraction in government spending. There is no political will for that now, and even if it were accomplished, there would be such high volatility in the inflation rate along the way that investors would periodically be terrified. Two, we could succumb to the temptation to print the money needed to pay these obligations until inflation soars and the dollar becomes completely devalued. Or three, the government could default on paying some of its debts, potentially by significantly raising the age to receive Social Security or cutting back on Medicare. If that happens, there will be major social implications because people have paid into these systems for years and feel entitled to these benefits. To me, scenarios one and three are the most likely at this point.”

Jeffrey Gundlach
Chief Investment Officer, TCW Funds

4. A 10-Year Japanese-Style Recession

“My biggest fear is the U.S. becomes like Japan. During their economic crisis in the 1990s, the Japanese lowered interest rates to zero, never forced their ailing banks to write down their bad assets, and threw a ton of money at bad banks that accomplished nothing. That looks like what we’re doing right now. We’re not requiring banks to take write-downs, and we’ve suspended mark-to-market accounting so that banks can hide their losses. And we’re propping up banks that are borderline insolvent with billions of dollars in government assistance even though they’re not lending as they’re supposed to do. If we follow Japan’s model, we may have Japan’s results — 10 years of subpar economic growth and a lot of government spending on zombie banks that refuse to lend. The Nikkei stock index has fallen more than 70 percent from its 1989 peak as a consequence. That could be our future.”

Barry L. Ritholtz
CEO, Fusion IQ, and blogger at The Big Picture

5. The Dollar Collapses

“For me the next market crash is not an if but a when. It will start with the government continuing to print money till the dollar collapses. China, Europe, and Japan are the biggest holders of U.S. currency in terms of Treasury debt, and they’ve already indicated an interest in selling some of their positions. That will put further downward pressure on the U.S. dollar. Meanwhile, unemployment will continue to creep up. Seventy percent of the gross domestic product of our economy is from consumer spending. With unemployment high, spending will go down. If inflation picks up, as it will with the dollar falling and oil already hitting $80 a barrel, the Fed will raise interest rates and make it harder for consumers to borrow money to spend. Then the X factor is, God forbid, that there is another terrorist attack. With so many potential negatives on the horizon, I’m just not buying this current rally.”

Neil Menard
Principal, Steben & Company

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    time111

    10/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Boo! 5 Nightmare Scenarios for the Economy

    Anything is possible, but now people at the Fed and the
    Treasury are engaged into managing the economy, and I do not
    expect things to fall apart. Time will tell.

    time111
    admin: http://invetrics.com

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    Barry Ritholtz

    10/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Boo! 5 Nightmare Scenarios for the Economy

    You seemed to have misunderstood my fear this is embarrassingly wrong.

    My fear is not a 70% decline -- we just had a 56% decline,
    and we are still standing -- we came through that fine

    The fear is a 10+ year recession

    Your headline writer sure drew the wrong conclusion from
    our interview

    -Barry Ritholtz




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    time111

    10/30/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Boo! 5 Nightmare Scenarios for the Economy

    My understanding from reading the article was that if the U.S.
    becomes like Japan, then we'll be in an on/off recession scenario
    for a long time (just like they have been) with the stock market
    going nowhere, and could get as bad as 70% down from the
    PEAK.

    It seems to be consistent with both the article and the
    comments.

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    Jack Otter

    10/30/09 | Report as spam

    5 Nightmare Scenarios For the Economy

    Barry,

    You're right, we could have done better with the subhead. It's now fixed.
    Thanks for calling that to our attention, and thanks for sharing your thoughts with our writer. It's great to have your ideas on our site.

    Jack Otter
    Executive Editor
    CBS MoneyWatch.com

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    willid3

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    RE: Boo! 5 Nightmare Scenarios for the Economy

    i suspect a worse night mare would be runaway deflation. as it stands right now. consumers (that bunch that are %70+ of the economy) have been having incomes collapse. that means no matter what you do with taxes or any thing else they will have less to spend. and since easy credit is now history and very unlikely to return (as consumers have relearned that old lesson from the great depression. don't borrow unless you have to. plus that other one. don't buy stocks or deal with wall street. unless you have to). and with consumers (aka workers) competing with 3rd world countries based on cost and not much else, there is nothing to push their incomes back up. that will end up with a lower standard of living here. plus since we sell less than we import, that puts a lot of downward pressure on the dollar. the only up side to that is those who sell to us, are deflating their currencies otherwise we don't buy so much from them

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    mosesnbklyn

    11/03/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Boo! 5 Nightmare Scenarios for the Economy

    from what I have been reading about the complete inability of regulators to control short selling, SEC failures to stop price fixing and insider trading, executive compensation at companies that were bailed out, I have no confidence in financial markets at this time.

    from the inability of the US federal government (its more than just the white house, we have 537 or more idiots getting pay and healthcare to 'legislate') to complete simple tasks like balancing the budget, bringing armed forces home now that we have caught saddam and can bomb the hell out of the terrorists (used to be called freedom fighters when we first trained them), I have no confidence in our government.

    Is a peaceful revolution and complete overhaul of government possible? We give trillions in "charities" lkike the UN and then allow Syria and Saudi Arabia on the security council?

    "end up with a lower standard of living here" - this is not only happening but its about time we grew out of our obesity-shopaholic-supersize-brittany spears mindless lifestyles and get back to real values.

    Our problems are simple enough that we can fix them now. (maybe by going exempt? Im so tempted!) Same with the environment - just requires real leadership - less talk more action. before we perpetuate the fall or Rome again, we at least owe it to our future generations (if they can still read and have any freedom) to make the tough decisions now!

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    ms211

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    Deflation is #6!

    willid3: You're right on. That's another real risk.

    Our current reality is unimaginable levels of debt, deficit spending and higher levels of centralized/government planning/controls/intervention which NEVER works. The biggest bubble of all is occuring right now: Government at all levels. From the overbuilt Taj Mahal local high school to federal spending, ObamaCare and Zombie bank bailouts.

    We have no collective courage or conviction to do the right thing and correct our course. When politicians run on a platform of hand-outs and "hope" in the face of these realities, we are up against incredible odds of facing anything but a bleak future.

    It's not about politics, it's about economics and we're catching on too late.

    The results could be any of the 6.

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